Why Californians are fleeing this once-Golden State

  • Why Californians are fleeing this once-Golden State

    Posted by ObscureandFuzzy on April 8, 2024 at 5:52 pm

    Why Californians are fleeing this once-Golden State

    It seems only yesterday that California’s population was nearly 40 million. Then more people left the state. Now we’re not even at 39 million.

    The U.S. Census Bureau reported in March that California’s population as of last July had dropped to an estimated 38,965,000. That’s down by 75,400 in a year — and 573,000 below California’s peak of 39.5 million in 2020.

    But “the biggest reason we’re losing population is that people are moving out,” Johnson says. “That has slowed, but we’re still losing hundreds of thousands to other states.” That’s a net loss after factoring in people moving to California.

    And why are they leaving? Mainly because of California’s high cost of living, particularly housing. That’s the biggest reason movers cite.

    Blame California’s high costs of land and labor plus regulatory quagmires and neighborhood resistance to growth. Newsom and legislators have been wrestling with these issues for years and enacted new laws, but they haven’t generated much progress in making home buying more affordable.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-californians-fleeing-once-golden-100055244.html

    ObscureandFuzzy replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • metta

    Member
    April 8, 2024 at 11:48 pm

    There is still a shortage of housing. Look around California: you are not going to find a bunch of empty houses. San Francisco home prices have been dropping. And west LA is softening because it went up so much. But a lot of areas have not seen any price decreases yet because there is still a housing shortage. The increases have slowed down. Most major areas do not have very many places to build. It is mostly redevelopment or adding adu’s to backyards. A lot of residents fight new development because they don’t want more traffic, and they are trying to keep their communities as they are. The new developments are much bigger projects. Often several stories tall in the suburbs. Again, there is lack of land available. The suburbs do not want to turn their cities into urban cities. Huntington Beach is fighting redevelopment and the state is fighting back on that.

  • ObscureandFuzzy

    Organizer
    April 9, 2024 at 8:26 am

    @metta

    Member

    April 8, 2024 at 11:48 pm

    There is still a shortage of housing. Look around California: you are not going to find a bunch of empty houses. San Francisco home prices have been dropping. And west LA is softening because it went up so much. But a lot of areas have not seen any price decreases yet because there is still a housing shortage. The increases have slowed down. Most major areas do not have very many places to build. It is mostly redevelopment or adding adu’s to backyards. A lot of residents fight new development because they don’t want more traffic, and they are trying to keep their communities as they are. The new developments are much bigger projects. Often several stories tall in the suburbs. Again, there is lack of land available. The suburbs do not want to turn their cities into urban cities. Huntington Beach is fighting redevelopment and the state is fighting back on that.

    Perfect example is the Palms neighborhood on the west side of Los Angeles. Just 20 years ago there were mostly 2 floor apartment buildings, and even some of the original single family homes going back to the early 1900s. Over the past 5 years, those few remaining single family homes were purchased and demolished and now there are 6, 7 and 8 floor apartment buildings going up in their place.

  • Strayan

    Member
    April 10, 2024 at 8:38 pm

    I once lived the feel, and look of San Francisco, but that’s all fine now. Makes me sad that I’ll never drive HWY 1 again, and all the stop off’s, along the way.

  • ObscureandFuzzy

    Organizer
    April 11, 2024 at 5:42 pm

    @Strayan

    April 10, 2024 at 8:38 pm

    I once lived the feel, and look of San Francisco, but that’s all fine now. Makes me sad that I’ll never drive HWY 1 again, and all the stop off’s, along the way.

    I think many who live in California think that sky high taxes, government fees, expensive gas prices, people pooping on the sidewalk, criminals not charged if they steal less than $950… is the way things are in all the other states too. If they only knew the truth…

    But it’s probably a good thing they don’t know, otherwise they would move to the well run states and ruin them too.

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