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Hey guys,

In Cronker's thread on gay literature (http://www.realjock.com/topic/67509/), I said something about how I was writing some right now, and would be interested in posting one of the stories I was writing in installments. Shameless plug for myself, I know. I still don't know if I want to do it or not since the stories really aren't "jock-related" (that is to say, I haven't written one of those yet).

Anyway, the question I have is this: is there any interest for those of you out there who are songwriters,poets, authors etc. of arranging for a forum where we can "show off" those kinds of creations, or is RealJock not the right place? I understand that this website can't be all things to all people, and that this site is really dedicated to allowing gay men to exchange ideas and expertise on exercise and fitness... so please feel free to say so if you think it's not a good idea. I'd just be curious to see how many of RealJocks are also Rennaisance Men.

All input welcome.

Thanks,
SAHEM62896

Hhhmmmmmmmmmmmm...

I would say Absolutely! It adds another dimension to this site and why not?
Keep in mind that some guys comments could be scathing?

I’m all for it!

Well, I am artistic in the sense I create my own reality. There are tons of places I know of where full expression is less than an artists ability because of the restrictions of the provider.

So with that said, I would just go with the conservative approach to start with and a little mystery, like a veil over something yet to be uncovered.

As a sort of rhyme master myself as well I would be more than willing to kick off this little project because I know the volumptuously in shape have a softer side to show.

First, lets all start talking about the rules and regulations here on RealJock to see what subjects are available for us to analyze, interpret, and evaluate why there is controversy around it. Now you can do it your own way, I prefer to see a little bit of deep consideration when I let the gears turn and juices flow.

My contribution starting in the new year won't be so many works of art than it will writing to think out load about the things which interest me. So many different perspectives come to mind about some of the things I learn and feedback from others is something I value as well as sharing experiences in stories of experiments within an approach to life.

Sahem----Thanks for making this post. As a teacher and a musician--a pianist, I want to add to your thoughts. I came from from a background of jocks, geeks, and band geeks. As I have grown as a teacher, and doing reasearch, the person evolves more from a back ground of sports, the arts, and the academics. All the experiences of each stimulate the brain in many ways, so you strengthen your weak points and develop your stronger ones. Many of the people I have told that I was a musician/pianist and teacher are very supportive---maybe because that we are gay and understand a little better. We should laud our accomplihments to our buddies here at RJ, what a cross section of men we are, and for the most part, very nice to know as well. Thanks again Sahem-----post your writting. James

If not a section or a forum section on RJ, then a site called RealArtist would be nice

RealArtist: Gay arts and gay expressions for gay artists, critics, and connoisseurs

JustJames88 I may be asking you quite a few question in which I would include areas in my life which I feel need improvement and could you do me the favor of answering these questions with possiblities to help make me see something I feel I am lacking?

What you said about personal evolution through backround of sports, academics, and the arts intrigues me. Could you explain a little bit more detail about the way you see it please? To me you make it sound like multiple individuals competing against eachother in a team setting for the gold in some of the worlds pastimes and bonding through the physical contact of sharing a piece of the glory, regardless of whether the person is a good or bad sport, helps to improve general well-being.

As for the academic aspect of wisdom it stands to reason there is some dependability in learning from the mistakes of our past and seeking out the brilliant minds of our day to broaden our perspective of what we as a society are able to do with ourselves as well as what would keep the human species alive.

The arts is all about self expression, everybody knows that.

I don't think you need any more opinions Sahem. I think its worth a try. If it goes downhill we can always stop. Can't wait to read what's on your mind (or rather what's in your imagination)

Would love to read your work Sahem. I am hopeful that my work will be published in the new year. Fingers crossed, just waiting to hear!

Natasha Bedingfield - unwritten

Cronker and Sahem: I'm not an attorney, but you guys might wanna check with one first if you do plan on getting your work published. If you post it on here, what if someone else claims that is it free territory to have published themselves??

If not, or if they say it's no prob, then yeah for sure it would be fun to read!

OMG!!! like I'm totally gonna become a superstar!!!!

I just got an offer to visit a recording studio and check things out because I can sing. So now I have a few goals to accomplish. Here's where I'm taking my talents.

*material I read in books will be my main inspiration. The different situations will be what I make my music/lyrics from. Totally unique to me and my interests.

I was contracted to write a book a few years ago. During the production phase, I sent a few galleys around to individuals who could potentially provide cover quotes. Two copies went to different magazine editors who worked for the same publisher. After being received very enthusiastically by one of these editors over the phone, I didn't hear back from him. Next thing I know, the contents of my book were basically serialized and published without my consent by the other editor in the sister publication. Thankfully, I had already sold serial rights to another magazine that had beat them to the punch. Nevertheless, the same thing happened again when I attempted to sell the European rights.

My point is that even when your work is published and protected by copyright, people can steal it. Putting it online for others to review is an open invitation to have your ideas pilfered.

My advice is to share your work with people you can trust. I'm normally not a paranoid person, but I've been ripped off in this game more times than I can count. I even got screwed over by Conde Nast UK while I was a contract columnist for Conde Nast US. Publishing is an ugly business.

fitnfunmich saidCronker and Sahem: I'm not an attorney, but you guys might wanna check with one first if you do plan on getting your work published. If you post it on here, what if someone else claims that is it free territory to have published themselves??

If not, or if they say it's no prob, then yeah for sure it would be fun to read!

ditto. is it something u want to risk being cloned or stolen?

random inspiration...



Madonna - "Frozen"

I actually WRITE gay fiction and poetry. I have posted 3 short stories in 3 gay fiction sites. Still working on more.

Admittedly I only started writing fiction last August (though I was editor in chief for the school paper in HS). I've written poetry and been a visual artist all my life though.

No, not the sleazy wank stories. Corny, romance stories, teen stuff (though one did have a torrid sex scene). I hesitate to post the sites here... You're all adults! So am I, but I might come off as childish (which I am! LOL)

If any of you are interested in reading, I can send you a link privately. Tons of other stuff by other gay authors too. Mostly teen stuff, but there are darker themes, like suicide, abuse, breakups, even scifi etc.

Gay writing is a whole other genre out there.

I think it'd be a good idea to add on the profiles (we already have a music and videos section, why not artwork or writing?).

"THESE WORDS ARE MY OWN" - NATASHA BEDINGFIELD





"RHYTHM IS A DANCER" - SNAP

I draw a lot of gay stuff, the past year in a half I've barely drawn anything.. I think playing guitar has taken over as my main hobby maybe. if anyone wants to check out my online art gallery heres the link www.hellroglyph.deviantart.com

So my B-day is coming up...and I thought it would be quite interesting to model at work for some artists to picture me in whatever type of outline that comes out of their artistic utensils on canvas. I don't know exactly how many seats there are in the classroom I'm intending to pose in, however there may just be a sign up sheet and it would be first come first serve. Cover charge will be determined upon reservation agreement. Party favors to set the mood will be provided by the one and only ME.

To be continued...

Hey SAHEM62896,

It DOES say "Gay fitness health and life" in the title for this site, so that would qualify as life all right (or write), so why not?

I posted small excerpts of writing on our profile. Would be happy to look at yours every week or so and get a momentary thrill! Never thought of a serial- what an idea.

OMG, Damanhur is so awesome. I really can appreciate the place, and not soley because there is "man" in the name of it. There are videos of it on youtube. Also a book you can purchase. Checkitout.

Nelly - "Hot In Hur"