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Oct 04, 2007 3:31 AM GMT
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Anyone know anything about this supplement? Someone I know wants to start taking it and since he is incredibly irresponsible with things like that (e.g. main interest in the gym for him is the looks part and doesn't really seem to mind if shit will fuck his health) I thought I'd look into it for him.
So does this work if you've tried it? Is it safe? I read it has caffeine but I can't figure out how much there is per dose as I can't find it listed anywhere. Let me know if it has anything that could possibly be a health risk.
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Oct 04, 2007 5:15 AM GMT
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It's mainly arginine (and things that will generate arginine when metabolized) and creatine.
Some people really respond to it and some people don't. I don't think there's anything particularly harmful in it, but greatly exceeding the recommended dose might be hard on the liver and kidneys. If your friend has trouble with overdoing things like that... well, he'll probably get into trouble eventually, with something.
Most web sites that sell it will have a list of the ingredients, or you can go to the manufacturers site (www.bsnonline.com) and find it, along with a heaping load of bull. There are also alternatives with pretty much the same ingredients, but I've found that gram per gram, most of these things price out about the same.
Personally, I respond moderately well to it. The arginine acts as a vasodilator. I've always had poor circulation... forget about donating blood... and my arms always fell asleep in bed (and stayed skinny.) Since using this stuff... well, my arms have finally started growing. And last time I gave a blood sample, the phlebotomist actually said, "Wow! Choose a vein..." (Previously, it would take about six pokes and half an hour to get a sample.)
The creatine has been pretty conclusively shown to contribute to muscle mass increase for most (but not all) people, IF they are lifting weights.
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Oct 04, 2007 5:32 AM GMT
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For what it's worth, guys - I use it, and like it. No jitters, no big side effect problems or anything like that. I did find it helpful to STIR rather than SHAKE as the package directs. As for pricing - if you'll forgive the plug, you can get it through our website's link for $5-$7 cheaper than the other place mentioned.... http://www.prime-fit.com/supplements.htmAnd check out the articles on the Prime Fit site while you're at it - they're free. Joey |
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Oct 04, 2007 6:03 AM GMT
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QUOTE:Since using this stuff... well, my arms have finally started growing. Crap, both of you are making it sound actually good, I might even have to try it for myself since you made that arm comment (my arms are shit compared to everything else), though I'll have to wait until my god damned shoulder is back in business. Thanks for the info, I'll let my bro know.  Sorry Joey but my bro already bought it so he can't use your site but if I do decide to try the supplement route I'll check it out. |
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Oct 04, 2007 6:33 AM GMT
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i heart it!
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Oct 04, 2007 2:20 PM GMT
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I must agree trebor...i luv the stuff..
I've ordered it off of ebay...for alot less through some of the online supplement stores that sell through ebay.
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Oct 04, 2007 4:53 PM GMT
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For myself, I've found that continued use (along with a separate creatine supplement) coincided with good results compared to when I went off of it temporarily later on. A couple of things to note, though:
1) Your body may need to get used to it. I always find that when I've been off of it for a few days in a row, I tend to feel sick my first night back on it.
2) This is one of the few supplements that will actually go bad on the shelf after a while (you'll be able to tell). Don't stock up on tons of it.
Good luck!
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Oct 04, 2007 5:35 PM GMT
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Any of you blokes find a corrolation between arginine use and sleeplessness? I have found that when I take an arginine supp, I develop insomnia as a side effect...
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Oct 04, 2007 6:34 PM GMT
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Yeah, the first day or two that I used it, I was too pumped to sleep. That only lasted a couple of days, and then I guess I got used to it. Also, I don't use any of those things within a few hours of bedtime, and I don't use near as much as the manufacturers recommend.
At first, I was a little concerned about blood pressure effects, so I tracked it for a few days, but it seemed OK.
BTW: Some companies market the same stuff to geriatrics as a "fountain of youth" serum.
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Oct 04, 2007 8:14 PM GMT
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Warren, I suspect it's another ingredient that is the problem. Ornithane & Arginine was a popular combo for some time to promote GH release during sleep. Turned out to be not all THAT helpful - but it didn't interfere with sleep at all.
You'll still find Arginine in some sleep aids. I also note the following study:
ID: 4163.0, MPI für Psychiatrie
Publikationen MPI für Psychiatrie
Arginine improves sleep in elderly men
Authors:
Steiger, A; Weikel, J; Held, K; Schmid, D; Ziegenbein, M
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Oct 05, 2007 12:08 AM GMT
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I use this product. For lifting. Its pretty kick ass. I follow it as described. I dont do alot of sweet things, and its got a mellow sweet factor which is good. I wanna try the black powder.
I highly recomend it, get the big jar too, noone recomended it to me, I just thought it had some good promises that were worth the 70 dollar risk. I love it. I think I might try the whole stacking system. I dunno.
But just get it, and try it. Read the insturctions on box in full!
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Oct 05, 2007 2:10 PM GMT
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dunno about sleeplessness but if you suffer from cold sores steer well clear of it
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Oct 27, 2007 11:18 PM GMT
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I don't know too much about NO Xplode, but I take a similar product from AdvoCare called Arginine Extreme. It has a similar effect of increasing vascularity, along with many of the benefits described about NO Xplode. My results have been significant; if nothing else, I certainly get a lot more compliments at the gym.
The only word of caution I would provide to users of any product containing significant amounts of arginine: If you have the herpes virus in any form [about 80% of the population has the kind that causes cold sores], arginine has a tendency to "activate" it, even when you do not get cold sores. I hadn't had a cold sore in almost a year, and when I started on Arginine Extreme [and had some big job-related stress at the time], I got one.
If you find that taking arginine causes you to have cold sores, you might try upping your intake of Omega-3 gelcaps. I take my OmegaPlex twice a day instead of once a day on the days that I work out [which are the days I use Arginine Extreme]. The Lysine in fish oil helps to combat cold sores, and if you currently have one, can shorten its life cycle greatly.
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Oct 28, 2007 3:38 PM GMT
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Be sure to follow the directions for 12 weeks on and 4 weeks off. Or something close, to give your kidneys and liver a rest, especially if you are taking the maximum dose.
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Oct 28, 2007 4:37 PM GMT
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Like all chemicals, everyone of us responds differently. When I have a bad headache the only thing that will get rid of it is aspirin, and nothing else.
Likewise with supplements - you're stuffing a whole concoction of chemicals into your system and you and I may or may not respond in the same manner - just think "research drug studies" using placebos etc....even those who get the actual drug don't ALL show the same results.
That being said, all I can say is that NO XPLODE KICKS MY ASS. I definitely notice the difference when I take it vs not taking it. I am a triathlete and I wouldn't race without it - I know it gives me a huge advantage out there.
Side-affects:
I work out around 2pm so I only take this supplement around 1:30pm and have noticed that if taken later, I will have trouble sleeping.
If I take the full dose it tends to make me feel nauseas, but I think it's because of my rather prissy stomach.
Regarding abusing it, well, if it can be abused it will be abused just like anything else. Is it safe? Time will tell. But then again, you're probably routinely eating far more harmful substances every day of your life.
Moderation thrives, excess kills!
PEACE
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Oct 28, 2007 5:19 PM GMT
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I love this stuff. However it does contain caffeine "Methylxanthine" Also the big Caution lable says do not us with OTHER caffinated products. I must say though my workouts have become longer and more intense since I started using no-explode.  |
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Oct 29, 2007 10:21 PM GMT
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It rocks!
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Oct 31, 2007 6:10 AM GMT
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Because of the Arginine content, it will give you rock hard erections and even after you cum, you'll dick stay hard for a long time. You can do 2-3 rounds of fucking with ease.
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Nov 10, 2007 12:39 AM GMT
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Has anyone tried No xplode and black powder?
I just bought no xplode but was also told I should try black powder.
Anyone have any comparisons??
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Nov 25, 2007 9:08 PM GMT
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I've been using Hydroxycut Extreme for about a year or so, and I've been really happy with the results. Is NoExplode a similar thing, or is it a different supplement altogether?
I've seen it on the shelf and thought about trying it, but I've never read the label and figured it was silmilar to what I was already doing.
I guess it's good to change up every now and then, because I always felt that your body tends to get used to certian things after awhile (kinda like changing up your workout).
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Nov 25, 2007 9:28 PM GMT
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Assuming you mean Hydroxycut Hardcore, they both contain caffeine, but otherwise they're very different supplements.
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Apr 06, 2008 3:30 AM GMT
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My experience with No Xplode has been incredible. I am HIV+ ( for 17 years )and was having a big problem with a lack of energy when weightlifting. I eat very healthily and eat to gain weight, so my energy problem did not stem from my diet. After all the years of being poz and taking the meds, I think I was just drained. Normal everyday activities were fine but I could last about 1/2 hour for a workout and I was done. I started No Xplode and actually trained a year to compete in physique at the Gay Games and won a gold medal and I attribute it to this supplement. I could not workout without it. Now I've started playing tennis and it gets me through 3 sets easily. I do bloodwork every 3 months and after 2 years of continuous use of No Xplode my liver function is normal and my health/bloodwork is the best it's ever been. I would have to say even if No Xplode kills me it's been worth the ride because my life has improved immensely. On another point, No Xplode doesn't leave me jittery. After a workout it just wears off and I don't crash. Then if I do another activity later in the day, tennis for example, it kicks in and I'm back in business. I find that amazing. If I take it after about 6pm I have to make sure I really work hard and work it off, otherwise I can't sleep. So there's my 2 cents on No Xplode. Make sure you drink TONS of water, especially while exercising. But you should do that regardless.
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Jul 28, 2008 12:48 AM GMT
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Just started on No Xplode and wow you can feel it helping you.. I am going to try it for one cycle, and see what happens.. It has already helped on the workouts..
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Jul 28, 2008 12:50 AM GMT
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I wish I could use it but I can't!grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Jul 28, 2008 3:49 AM GMT
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I've been using NO Xplode this summer for the very first time and it has been amazing. Im about to finish the container soon, so it'll be interesting how much my lifting has improved without it (if it has at all). It's a great product, but not something I want to take forever.
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Jul 28, 2008 4:30 AM GMT
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this product seems to be getting universal thumbs up.
im curious if this is a product that would work for me. currently im pleased with my quantity of muscle mass, and really would just like to lose a few pounds, get more cut, etc. is NO explode good for weight loss?
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Jul 28, 2008 5:27 AM GMT
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I love the stuff - highly recommended!!
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Jul 29, 2008 3:22 AM GMT
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I tried this not sure what to expect. The first time I used it I didn't really notice that much. I just used it again today though and it was really good, really got me in the zone.
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Jul 29, 2008 3:34 AM GMT
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I LOVED this product when I was able to use it. It gave me the energy to push through my workouts and left me wanting to be at the gym for HOURS! I had to stop using it however when it gave me a rash that would go from my right shoulder, up my neck and onto my cheeks. Needless to say, I was sad to give this product up to my brother. He had no issue with it.
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Sep 04, 2008 5:38 AM GMT
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I am quite spoiled on NoXplode.
I used to work at the gym that I worked out at and got some very good discounts through the trainers.
I know a lot of it is psychological, but I found that I could lift that extra five pounds when I had taken it.
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Sep 10, 2008 8:47 PM GMT
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I've been using NaNO Vapor by MuscleTech, but have used NO Xplode in the past. They are very similar, the main difference for me is that NaNO Vapor seems to take effect in about half the time---say, 20 minutes compared to about 45 for NO Xplode. Either one though, if I don't take it on an absolutely empty stomach I don't feel anything. I've been on NaNO Vapor for about 3 wks and am starting to see some effect physically.
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Sep 11, 2008 4:36 AM GMT
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That sort of makes sense... a lot of the ingredients in NOxplode are just different amino acids that feed into the NO pathway. It appears that what they're trying to do is time the release to give a longer-lasting pump and/or to get more of it absorbed into the blood stream, rather than digested.
Anyway, I didn't use any NOxplode last year because I thought it was too expensive for what it contained. I bought some cheaper equivalent that was on sale. Recently, I went back to NOxplode, and whoah! It really is better.
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Sep 11, 2008 8:46 AM GMT
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I've tried it before and it didn't do anything for me.
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Sep 12, 2008 9:15 PM GMT
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The first tub of this stuff had me hooked. I got totally pumped and great workouts. Made my T-shirts tighter! But after a while the effect went away for me, nothing noticeable whether I took it or not.
Now I take it just a couple times a week, and the pump is back. I use it on chest and arms days. I don't take it on leg, back or cardio days.
I read that it is hard on the pancreas, so if you know you have any pan-issues, pass. My workout partner tried it at different doses and always got nauseous, so gave it up after a while. It isn't for everyone.
There are similar products out there. I'm trying Nitro Extreme with slightly better results, as it has a bit more caffeine in it, which helps my morning workouts.
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Sep 13, 2008 7:41 AM GMT
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I always got the best results from good ol' creatine monohydrate. It's a lot more affordable and has always been consistent with me.
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Oct 23, 2008 7:31 PM GMT
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I have used NO Xplode in the past and really liked what it did for me in the gym. But I found that after a few months it started to upset my stomach, so I eventually reduced the amount I used and now no longer use it. Does anyone have a good alternative to NO Xplode that does not upset the stomach, or at least have any tricks for using NO Xplode? Thanks for any suggestions.
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Oct 23, 2008 8:02 PM GMT
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i hate this shit...
haha i started to take it and yes it is amazing but now i cant do anything without it im not addicted (i dont think i am at least) but now i must take it when i work out and when i run. since im a cross country runner it makes my runs way faster and i can just go forever but then when i get home and have to recover my legs or body is exsausted and it takes a long time to recover. i have been taking for for about 2 years non stop started at 2 scoops now im at 3 and basically everyday while i havent felt any bad side effects i hate having to rely on it when i used to be able to do the same amount of exercise without it, but yeah.... it is amazing drink a ton of water
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Oct 23, 2008 8:03 PM GMT
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For you guys that like NoXplode. You need to try Hyper Shock. Has even better results than noxplode and a container will last you longer. I was taking three scoops with noxplode and with Hyper Shock I only need one scoop and the results are even stronger.
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Oct 23, 2008 8:52 PM GMT
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I know this isn't really an answer to your question... But another good one is nitrobolic from vyotech. it does pretty much the same thing as no xplode. I've never used no xplode but love nitrobolic. I know some people don't have much of an effect with it and those are the ones that no xplode usually works for. From what I've noticed from talking to people it seems that if one doesn't work for you the other one will. Why it's that way, I don't know. But I just wanted to throw that in there for you and/or anyone else that have either never heard of it or wanted to try it or haven't had luck with the no xplode. I rarely use the nitrobolic. I only get it a couple times a year really. The price is pretty high in stores but you can find it MUCH cheaper online like on ebay and I think even bodybuilding.com's price isn't bad. When I first started taking it I was so amazed it was nearly an addiction for me. I was working out twice a day for a good hour each with both weights and cardio. It was awesome though. No soreness, I lost a lot of fat and gained a good bit of muscle with it too. And pumps that were so intense I just loved it and they lasted so long it was amazing. I wouldn't mind trying the no xplode sometime though because I know some people swear by it but it's so hard knowing that the nitrobolic works so well for me.
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Oct 27, 2008 2:46 PM GMT
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gigaomega saidi hate this shit...
haha i started to take it and yes it is amazing but now i cant do anything without it im not addicted (i dont think i am at least) but now i must take it when i work out and when i run. since im a cross country runner it makes my runs way faster and i can just go forever but then when i get home and have to recover my legs or body is exsausted and it takes a long time to recover. i have been taking for for about 2 years non stop started at 2 scoops now im at 3 and basically everyday while i havent felt any bad side effects i hate having to rely on it when i used to be able to do the same amount of exercise without it, but yeah.... it is amazing drink a ton of water you may not have felt any bad side effects, but you whole story sounds like a bad side effect. especially the fact that you now have to rely on it to do the same amount of exercise you used to be able to do without it. I'd try to slowly reduce your usage man. |
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Oct 27, 2008 6:12 PM GMT
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I just started using it for the second time. I used it once before and it made me itchy.... to the point that I could not stop scratching and I would get hives... I even went to my MD....at that point I had no idea it was from that....
I finally stopped it and the itching went away....
I started up again after about a year off of it but I only use half a scoop in my water bottle...I'm not really as itchy just a little but nothing that would make me stop it yet since I do seem to get better results from it....if it gets worse I'll try something else....
(someone told me that it was from the niacin that is in it)
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Oct 28, 2008 3:39 AM GMT
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I always have it my water bottle at the gym and it keeps me stoked while I am there,,, It makes the cardio a breeze and helps me push through the extra weights needed to make some decent gains. I have not experienced any neg. side effects at all.. I also use a separate Creatine before and after returning home from a good work out.
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Oct 28, 2008 3:49 AM GMT
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caramelbiny said
"you may not have felt any bad side effects, but you whole story sounds like a bad side effect. especially the fact that you now have to rely on it to do the same amount of exercise you used to be able to do without it. I'd try to slowly reduce your usage man."
yeah i realized this and i try to. the best way i think is cold turkey or to just not do any exercise for a week or so the only problem with that is i have a lot of free time so if i dont go to the gym i feel like im wasting a day. what i have started to do is work so im filling up my hours and getting tired then i have no urge to go to the gym or take the no-explode, now i have about 8 hours with nothing to do so im getting another job  and by the end of winter i will be free of its grasp because i dont want to be cheating when im competing in track. |
