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Nov 22, 2008 6:35 AM GMT
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Why is it that when you date someone and things end, do they feel the need to rub it in your face?

First bf (fat guy) rubbed it in my face that after I dumped him, he was dating a millionaire.

Second bf (twink) thanked me for being the only guy to top him because now he loved it and gets it from many guys.

The rest have felt the need to bring up the new person in theirs lives, what is worst is how fast they move on after they said they loved me. One even said
" hey buddy how are you man, as for me, I have the love of my life, I really like him, think he is the one."

Seriously this was three days after we broke up because he couldn't believe that I just wanted him. He had issues with his looks and didn't understand why I was with him. This is why I've been single for two years, I was fed up with the drama and bullshit games. I told myself that I'd never get involved again. Ha-Ha that didn't happen, I met someone and couldn't help but fall for him, was actually in love. Once again games started, games all around us like we were chess pieces.

So what's the point in these games? why do guys have to get so petty and weird? I understand being hurt but rather then let things go, one has to continue the hurt. (not pointing fingers, just general question about why guys do that)
Triggerman Posts: 722
Nov 22, 2008 6:49 AM GMT
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You only have control over you.

From what you wrote, you pick losers. Maybe hot cute losers but losers nonetheless.

You need to understand why you pick these guys. What made you pick these guys? Did they have something you think you lack? We ALL do that. But we all should learn from those mistakes. Really learn. Saying the guy was a dick or a jerk or whatever may be true but it teaches you nothing to learn about yourself. What did you need from them?

Everyone, no matter how old or young, makes mistakes in love. We all do, you are definitely not alone. But the important thing is to learn from each mistake. Why him? Why did I pick him? What did I lack? Where did I think he would complete me?

Falling for the wrong guy is no failure. Not learning is. So learn from it. Learn your weaknesses, and work to improve that area. Believe me, those losers are not very happy people anyway. It is good you found that out now.

Talk to friends. They usually see the losers we date before we do. Be honest with them and yourself. Be brutally honest and ask them what you need to be a better person and how you can improve. So, that next time you will see the mistakes before you make them.

Otherwise, just be a good decent honest guy. Another good guy will find you.

JW
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Nov 22, 2008 7:03 AM GMT
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thank you man....

here is the thing though...

The first two guys, I was new to dating, I didnt know what I wanted since I never been on a date. I was 19 and these guys were funny, nice, and sweet.
They weren't attractive, looks wise but I didn't care about that. It's to bad that their personality was fake, it was only a lie to get me. You can only lie about who you are for so long before the truth comes out. I am myself and if someone doesn't like it, I can't help but me me.

Dated two really hot guys, that is all they had. Once I came around, I was like competition to them. They were the guy everyone stared at all the time. Once I went to my first gay bar with them, I was stared at and they got jealous.

I wouldn't call them losers but they seem to blame you for their problems or people around you. I had a friend that fucked up two relationships. This friend is used to no one turning him down. I'm not one to just have sex so I turned him down. I was told I was the first to turn him down. He began to become obsessed and wouldn't leave alone. Fun guy to hang with but his motives where only to get in my pants. It was my mistake for showing him pics of my guy. I don't date much so having an interest in someone is very rare for me. This friend would message my guy trying to sleep with him and tried to get dirt on him for other guys on the site. I found out this guy was playing me and trying to get with others, tried to get with this friend. I thanked him for exposing this guy but still the drama that came along was awful. This time around I actually feel in love. Once again I make the mistake to tell show my friend the guy. He once again tries to make my guy cheat on me. He would message him all the time, even got another dude involved. The other guy wised up and didnt want to play the game. Sadly my guy didn't believe me, blammed me for both of them. I questione my dude about things he was doing, thats all, never believed anything wrong about him. I was dissed and right after he already had a new guy that he is happy with, right fucking after me.

I really hope I don't get back lash from this, just trying to understand things.
Triggerman Posts: 722
Nov 22, 2008 1:50 PM GMT
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I call them losers. Fuck em. They are gone and you are here. Tell them, if only in your mind, Fuck off. They had a chance with you and they blew it. Now, make yourself the best that you can be, and laugh at them when they call or come crawling back. When they do, you will be the best you that you can be, and FUCK EM!!! Losers! But when they come crawling back, be gracious, be kind, and then tell them to get lost. They had a chance, but they blew it. You be the best you that you can be! And find a new guy that loves you for who you are. And when those bitches come back, which they will, tell them thanks but no thanks. You were not here when I was down, and I do not need you know that I am back on TOP!!!

Do that. Own your life. You deserve more.
DCEric Posts: 518
Nov 22, 2008 2:03 PM GMT
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Why did they do that? Because they need to feel like they have moved on to a better life. You did the same. You tell yourself that they were "jerks" and imply that you wasted your time with them. Don't worry about what they do, worry about what you do.

http://www.amazon.com/Keeping-Love-You-Find-Singles/dp/0671734202/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227362336&sr=1-2
This book made a difference for me, yes cheesy self-help book. More than anything else, it changed my attitude on dating, and why things happen.

Disclaimed: The book is for heterosexuals, but for the majority of the book that is irrelevant. The author quickly addresses this, towards the beginning if memory serves me right. The author is a former religious leader (I don't know which one- as a Jew, Christians confuse me), and it does influence things, although not on the hetero/homosexual divide.
GuiltyGear Posts: 3252
Nov 22, 2008 2:11 PM GMT
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Date older guys. The way you look....I figure guys covet you at first and then when they realize exactly how they can't measure up to you, the resentment starts. It takes an insecure unsophisticated mind to think that way. Date older, they've loved and lost enough to know that something like you doesn't come along everday.
Ofcourse older can be clingy and manipulative, but really treat muscle bodies better than younger guys. They cherish that muscle, lol. Not as irresponsible as younger either.

METAPHOR TIME: if you were a prized possession to a younger guy you'd be a tricked out muscle car that he weights down with ugly accessories and rides you hard, shows you off at all the night spots....basically drives you to death and then you end up on the scrap heap before too long.

If you were a prized possession to an older man, you'd be an ancient piece of pottery that he backlights and puts behind glass, keeps dusted and safe from water damage. True, older are more conservative and won't be partying with you all night. LOL, just a thought, think about it.

I think this is a locality issue, if you were here, you'd be treated better, but that is only because people like you aren't walking around.
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Nov 22, 2008 2:21 PM GMT
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[quote][cite]onslaught said[/cite]Why is it that when you date someone and things end, do they feel the need to rub it in your face?

why do you bring this here? for the sake of balance you need to hear this.

you're a whiner, complainer and quite frankly full of yourself. people such as myself took the time initially to sympathize with your situation. has it ever dawned on you that you are the problem?

I congratulate bf #1 and bf # 2 for coming to their senses. they have no opportunity to defend themselves here against the "onslaught" of your immaturity. so guess what I'm going to defend them.

grow up.

I know I've moved on.
GuiltyGear Posts: 3252
Nov 22, 2008 2:38 PM GMT
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fogos said[quote][cite]onslaught said[/cite]Why is it that when you date someone and things end, do they feel the need to rub it in your face?

why do you bring this here? for the sake of balance you need to hear this.

you're a whiner, complainer and quite frankly full of yourself. people such as myself took the time initially to sympathize with your situation. has it ever dawned on you that you are the problem?

I congratulate bf #1 and bf # 2 for coming to their senses. they have no opportunity to defend themselves here against the "onslaught" of your immaturity. so guess what I'm going to defend them.

grow up.

I know I've moved on.


Hey, sometimes a girl needs a good cry. You already knew bodybuilders were full of jelly, right....don't act so brand new yourself, sexy.
GQjock Posts: 4020
Nov 22, 2008 3:54 PM GMT
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I don't know what to say On .....

I hear that you're hurting and that you feel abused
but do you expect all relationships to last?
Do you expect all men to treat you as you will or would treat them?

If you answer yes to any of those questions you're going to have to expect to be hurt again and again

I know that when you meet a guy you wanna fall head over heels and say to the world ... this is the man I am going to be with forever and ever
There aren't that many white knights my man
Try and take it slower ... it's ok to love
it's not ok to lose yourself in that love
Jackin_Johnny Posts: 719
Nov 22, 2008 4:06 PM GMT
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Hot big guys get hurt too....love is a risk!

All relationships can take time to work the bugs out. Don't give up. Just be friendly and try not to let the sweet talkers in to fast.....make em work for it...lol

YOU HOLD THE KEY
MunchingZombi... Posts: 2408
Nov 22, 2008 4:22 PM GMT
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So, did you just casually date these guys or were you boyfriends with some sort of commitment? The terminology is really unclear. A head game from someone you are dating is a different problem than drama with your boyfriend of three years. That said...

No one is 100% innocent in a relationship's drama. Just looking back and calling these guys jerks deprives you of important lessons on how have relationships. If, by some strange occurrence, they were 100% jerks and you were 100% innocent, your problem is even bigger: what is wrong with you that you date these people?
wvdave Posts: 19
Nov 22, 2008 4:28 PM GMT
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Maybe you are looking at it all wrong.
I am becoming of the opinion that everyone has brought something into our lives whether something big or small and we should learn from our experiences. Yeah it's hard to look at it that way initially when the heartache is there.
I have had some terrible experiences from relationships but am a stronger person for it.

They are probably rubbing it in your face to hurt you like you have hurt them.
I don't know you but you seem to come across as being very self-absorbed. Maybe you need to pay more attention to others and like someone else posted you would pick a different kind of person.



coolarmydude Posts: 1195
Nov 22, 2008 4:38 PM GMT
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Perhaps you're smarter and more secure than those you date.
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Nov 22, 2008 5:15 PM GMT
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Fogos, Dont assume that because I look a certain way that im all about myself.

I bring stuff like this here because I don't understand what is going on with guys.


How am I complaining, and whining, Im posting a forum to explain why fags get so odd because of their own issues. Why defend guys that lie to you to get some?

How am I immature, give me one reason?

Why do I bring this here? Dude why do you come here and waste your time?

YOu must be one of those guys that plays stupid fag game. Most likely why you're alone, someone brought up an issue you're guilty of so you have to cause drama.

who is really immature here?

No I'm not the problem, I'm the devoted nice guy in the relationship. I can't help it if other people like me. I don't flirt with people. If you can't understand that I just want you, then you're the problem. If you suspect me of something, you're the problem. Someone that is always there, always showing you how much they care, i'd say that person isnt the problem.

THe problem is guys assume shit because I have muscle. So what, I work out, that doesnt mean Im all about myself or think Im hot.
Czarodziej Posts: 261
Nov 22, 2008 5:16 PM GMT
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yeah man those guys were definitely losers. i empathize with your situation(s)- i really do know what its like to pick seemingly great guys who just sort of unravel into disappointments over time. its a reoccurring theme in my own life- especially the whole contacting-me-weeks-or-months-later-to-pick-at-the-scab thing.

while i'm glad to hear you dated guys based solely on personality- since that says a lot of good things about you- you do have to remember that others aren't really like that in their thought processes... and a large enough disparity in looks will start creeping into most guy's heads as insecurities and worries and feelings of self-doubt. i'm not advocating a 'date in your own caste' policy lol... but do try to make sure that if the guy you're dating is 'physically unattractive,' that he be self-assured enough to be able to handle that disparity and like you for you too.

conversely, if you're going to date guys who are on par with your male magnificence lol, or 'beyond' it even...u have to remember that that brings a whole new slew of potential neuroses into the picture.. they know exactly how easy it is to sleep with anyone they want, and even if they aren't the type to cheat (i haven't found that type yet), they may always worry that you could- hence the drama you mentioned with jealousy. and besides which, most of the good looking guys are more insecure than anyone- don't ask why, i've been wondering that for a long time- my best guess is that while 'average' looking ppl have to draw self satisfaction from within, a gorgeous person becomes addicted to compliments and looks-based-praise, and that becomes the foundation of their confidence... which is shaky at best.

basically, i think a vast majority of gay men have insecurities at the roots of their being- and i suspect this has a lot to do with just being gay in our culture. if you really think about how much conscious and unconscious pressure there is 24/7 to be other than yourself, from every authority source- the government, the church, many of our parents, friends, media.... you get an idea of why many of us have deep rooted insecurities.. they fade after coming out but i think maybe we just get better at hiding them, living with them? they're still there in most of us and motivate our thoughts and actions in ways we can't imagine, subconsciously. this is the heart of all relationship drama. how can one love another if they don't love themselves? i know that sounds cliched, but its why your exes are so petty in stabbing your when you're down... they need it to satiate their own insecurities. you have to remember that not everyone is as self-possessed as you are... very few in fact... and you can either be patiently loving toward them in a selfless (unfair) fashion until you break through, or you can wait to find the right guy... we all have our flaws but sometimes two people's flaws compliment each other, and that's when they seem endearing.





after all that guesswork, my prescription for you: just take however long you need to heal up, don't answer exes calls or read their texts or messages or emails (i just delete them before reading- and tell them when i break up that that's what i do, to be fair)- its harsh but necessary if you're hurting like you are and they just don't seem to care. then, once you're feeling steady on your feet again, let the right man find you. you'll know its right because it'll take so much less effort and heart-strain for you than past situations did.

that's the best i've got; heal up, and let him find you- and just be aware of his level of self-posession and the amount of work that could imply for you.

cowboyathlete Posts: 491
Nov 22, 2008 5:34 PM GMT
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In my view there is a reason your ex is an ex. I can scarcely imagine why some guys try to be friend with their ex. I fell hard for one guy right after I moved to Houston. Long story short, he was full of sh*t and dumped me. He was actually shocked that I did not want to maintain any further contact with him.
GQjock Posts: 4020
Nov 22, 2008 5:50 PM GMT
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No I'm not the problem, I'm the devoted nice guy in the relationship.

BINGO !!!

There's the problem .....
Who said there has to be a "devoted" one in a relationship
If you're going into a relationship thinking ... I'm gonna be the devoted one
I'm gonna make this work
I'm gonna be everything this guy needs

You're in for ONE Heap-O-Trouble
LaSalle04 Posts: 369
Nov 22, 2008 5:55 PM GMT
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I think some people like to try and strike first. What I mean is that after a break up (lets say you were the breaker upper), people feel dumped and rejected and lonely. So they find the first guy that will talk with them and declare that because he came around at a time of great sorrow that he must be the one to lead your ex out of the darkness.

Meanwhile, this guy may just be looking for an easy lay. Or is in a similar, vulnerable position and too afraid to face the world alone.

Point is that you really can't worry about what these guys do and say unless it somehow affects you. Its obvious that the only thing these guys have on you is that they are now dating someone new - its not like they are saying that they have hit the lottery, all of their offspring are in MENSA, and they live on a Yacht in the Meditterenean.

A new boyfriend isn't exactly something that is difficult to get. If that is all that they have to gloat about then trust me you are doing very well.
Aquanerd Posts: 363
Nov 22, 2008 6:12 PM GMT
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Just remember, whatever anyone says about someone else (friends, boyfriends, strangers, politicians, etc.) says more about the person making the commons, good or bad.

Seems to me that they were the ones that felt hurt be the break ups and responded by trying to make you think that they were happy.

Just remember how you feel when ever you make a comment about them.
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Nov 22, 2008 6:21 PM GMT
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when I say im the devoted one I mean that I do everything to prove to them, yet they accuse me of doing shit that doesnt happen.

If a guy looks at me and wants me, it ends up being my fault even If i didnt notice.

If I have an attractive friend, surely I must be messing around with him.

I go out with my friends, surely Im going out to hit on guys and get with people.


What im saying is that they pretend they are the one being hurt and are so into me, when they spend more time suspecting me then caring about me.

I shouldnt have to prove Im a good guy that just wants them. I even had a guy that picked me up from work and stayed with me contantly for two weeks. I was watched on my jobs web cams, and He didnt have his sites off me the whole two weeks. He still had the nerve to accuse me of wanting other people.

When I asked why? most say " I havent dated anyone that looks like you, one that everyone seems to want"

First thing, im not that great, not even. Secondly if you think that of your guy, shouldn't him being with you make you feel special. If other guys wanted my guy yet he was all mine, id be turned on by it.
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Nov 22, 2008 6:25 PM GMT
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Oh, jeeze, quit being such a baby. Post after post, you go on whining. Aren't you a big enough person mentally to blow all the petty bullshit games off? Get off it.

You empower all this by being so effected by it. STOP IT. Let it go. Move on. Get going on the rest of your life. Get off the pity pot.

You're 23, going on 12, for crying out loud.

Life sucks sometimes. You remove yourself from folks, and things, that don't work well from you, cut your losses, and move on.

All your self-indulgent, self-pity, is not gonna' get you anything but miserable, and ONLY BECAUSE YOU LET IT.

Take charge; take the world by the balls, and quit being so infantile about it.
Czarodziej Posts: 261
Nov 22, 2008 6:26 PM GMT
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i think its great you feel so genuinly modest- but the fact is that a lot of guys have fetishes for muscles like those and to many you're very very attractive, physically.

the guys you date know that- the problem is that, as i said, they're insecure and can't hear your assurances that you're committed because they're too busy letting their worried imaginations run rampant. that's not your fault- you're just yourself- the problem is theirs and its that they can't see that. now if you were flirting with other guys, i could see where they'd have doubts- actions speak louder than words and that would drain some potency from your assurances to the contrary.... but as long as you're not, you have to accept that these particular exes are just neurotic.

another thought is that ppl fear in others what they see too easily in themselves... like homophobes.... and in relationships, a person who is very capable of (and probably has before) cheating will project that onto their boyfriend- they'd know how easy it is for THEM to do and so it'd drive them crazy thinking that it's that easy for everyone. almost like karma, they way they torment themselves like that lol.


and chucky- come on man, he's hurting- far be it for you to judge his emotions. let him vent and be constructive or keep it to yourself please
KissingPro Posts: 616
Nov 22, 2008 6:33 PM GMT
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It's normal to hurt feelings, just don't dwell on it. I've learned that there are some people who like to see you hurt....I think it gives them a sense of power or control.........so don't give them that power.

The minute you let go of your hurt, the other one will go nuts and it's funny to see how desperate they are to "rope" you back in.

Fuck em. Move on. Later you will probably have some great dates, or even meet someone real special and you will look back and ask yourself:

Why was i so hung up on him? There are so many other guys who are better than him and happier.
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Nov 22, 2008 6:35 PM GMT
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Let me say again, all this is CRAP, and it only "gets" to you if you choose to go down that path.

You are in control of this and anyone tells you differently is simply wrong.

You can CHOOSE to go do something that brings your mood up, or sit around and whimper about it. That's reality.

If you continue to do things the way you are, things will stay mostly the same.

You CHOOSE to be miserable.

You can also CHOOSE to get things that make you unhappy out of your life and to walk another path.

This is not "rocket science."

It truly is that simple.
flex89 Posts: 453
Nov 22, 2008 6:37 PM GMT
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SOS Help for Emotions Any therapist will make you read it.

Now that I've saved you several $100-$200 sessions, go buy it and read it.
Czarodziej Posts: 261
Nov 22, 2008 6:38 PM GMT
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i, personally agree- though being a textbook case of Aquarius, i'm good at intellectualizing my emotions and flipping them off like switches. others are just more emotional creatures, and they need to feel their pain for a while as part of a healing process- no switch flipping.
its insightful advice, but not applicable to everyone...
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Nov 22, 2008 7:00 PM GMT
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thanks guys and no im not whinning just trying to get an explaination of things, and why do they happen.

This is a forum about being hurt, so let it go where it goes.

Im not whinning about shit, Im just explaining myself and my situations so that others can respond with their similar issues.

I just dont get why people have to play games, I just dont get it.
Its like people need to rub shit in your face because they are so bitter from what happened. Sure I was hurt but Im not being a jerk about it, Im not that one that does the dumping all the time.



I just dont get why one has to ask for my friendship after they either cheated, lied, or said they loved someone two days after you break up.
its kind of pointless.
MunchingZombi... Posts: 2408
Nov 22, 2008 7:06 PM GMT
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Onslaught.

No one here on this site can tell you why these people acted why they did. Your descriptions are vague, we have minimal back story, and it reads as very subjective. Asking is a fruitless labor.

Ask yourself why you date the sort of people you do. That will be more productive.
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Nov 22, 2008 7:28 PM GMT
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MunchingZombie saidOnslaught.

No one here on this site can tell you why these people acted why they did. Your descriptions are vague, we have minimal back story, and it reads as very subjective. Asking is a fruitless labor.

Ask yourself why you date the sort of people you do. That will be more productive.




True, I guess it is fruitless labor,.

It seems that some feel a bit guilty because they have played games with someone in the past and feel the need to post their angry posts. If you don't like what you are hearing, don't post. Of course, because I look a certain way, people will always assume I'm this arrogant all about me person.
Look past the muscle to see the sweet person I am.

I don't have a certain sort of person to date. Many think I go after the hotest guys and think I'm better then everyone. Sure I like a built dude, but have I had any, only two and thats all they had. The other guys were pretty average to non-worked out. Personality always gets me, I go for that all that time. Its like people have to be fake to keep you around. My first bf was out of shape and hated his body. I didn't care, I liked him, but because I took care of myself he took out his anger of his own body on me. I build my body for me, don't expect to look like me to be with me.

I guess I'm kind of whining, just a bit lol

but you try dealing with

1. losing your god job
2. being played by the first person you loved
3. finding out you have kidney stones and passing a few on your own.

All this in two weeks, so let me be a whinny bitch.

One said Im full of myself on here, well this is my forum post to help me understand why people are the way they are. If you can't understand that, dont post shit
Czarodziej Posts: 261
Nov 22, 2008 8:22 PM GMT
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omg im so sorry to hear about the kidney stones, on top of everything else. wow, that is a rotten couple of weeks- but i really do think that thing move in cyclical patterns and if you're in a downturn right now, you can look forward to finding everything you want just around the corner
Tonyvoyager Posts: 238
Nov 22, 2008 8:26 PM GMT
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You're a sweet guy, and I'm sorry you're hurting. Believe me, with time and the support of good friends it will get better. Thank your lucky stars you are able to love. I recall a great quote that went something like this: the human heart is designed to be broken, over and over again.

You're 23 - this is all part of the learning process. It does get easier with time. Hang in there.
looknrnd Posts: 780
Nov 22, 2008 9:46 PM GMT
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[quote][cite]onslaught said[/cite]thanks guys and no im not whinning just trying to get an explaination of things, and why do they happen.
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BINGO, again! You're asking us - men!!!!!!!!!!!!! (not that men are the only ones to do this) I wonder the same thing, but at some point you just have to realize that a lot of people are a mess relationship-wise.

Have you ever read the play, or watched the movie (a favorite of mine), "Splendor in the Grass"? There is a great Wordsworth poem at the heart of the movie:

"Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendor in the grass, of glory in the flower
We will grieve not, but rather find
Strength in what remains behind."

You really do have to just take these as lessons and just be happy in the moment and not dwell or question the loss. If you keep shaking your head about this, it will eventually fall off because this is a never-ending issue. You just have to take a deep breath and move on until you find someone that you don't have to work so hard for and that just, sort of, fits. Don't ever expect anything to last...just do what is right, never even consider giving more than you get (it shouldn't be that way), and hope that when it comes full circle.

meninlove Posts: 1830
Nov 23, 2008 4:34 AM GMT
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Onslaught, we'll tell you that one day when you do connect with someone that truly 'fits' (and yes you'll know it BECAUSE of all the times you were hurt and learned what to AVOID) you'll look back at every one of those failed relationships and realize that without them failing you may have ended up still with one of them, like living with a time bomb, instead of the right one that you finally found.

Make sense?

Here:

I went from broken dream to broken dream til I was .....34! Then I met Bill. Now at 53 I know that if I'd stayed with any of those guys, Bill and I would not be here today, celebrating 19 years! So now, with gritted teeth (heheh), I acknowledge the importance of those failures.


-Doug of meninlove (Bill says Hi.)
OHhiker Posts: 514
Nov 23, 2008 6:04 AM GMT
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Onslaught,
If you are getting hurt by things that your ex's are saying - it sounds like you still have feelings for them. Otherwise you wouldn't get hurt by the words.

If the guy has found the new love of his life, why does it matter to you - it's apparent you weren't it or you'd still be together. If he meets someone rich, what's it matter to you, you don't want to be with him.

Part of what's hurting may be that you think of the person in terms of what you liked about them and you leave them for some behavior like insecurity. Well that's a major part of their personality - so you can't ignore that when you've left them. When you look back at the WHOLE picture - you really didn't like the person enough to be with them. So, why dwell on it if they say "I've met a new guy and he's 10 times better than you!" Are they trying to hurt you? Maybe, but that's just a good reinforcement of why you should be glad you aren't with them anymore.

If you are expecting an ex to still love you and want the best for you - he can't. If he continues to think so well of you and what you had together - he can't move on. If he can't come up with something substantial to discredit what you had, he'll need to think up something bad to make it ok to move on. If he doesn't, he just keeps stalking you or something. Maybe you should look at it as a sign that the guy has moved on. Which you want to happen, right?




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Nov 23, 2008 3:00 PM GMT
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yeah exactly....

sure i still love the guy but who he is fake, he isnt even who he says he is.
I just think its funny how my friend are telling me that he is writing everywhere about his new guy that he "loves" so much. He doesn't know what love is, which is why he told me he loved me after two days and came down before meeting and refused to go back home without taking me with him. Expected me to quit my job and life to go move with some stranger just because he was obsessed.

Now I understand the want for something but that is just odd to come on that strong.

It doesn't matter though, i went out on a date with someone Ive had a crush on for awhile. It went really well and we are gonna chill today.
RSportsguy Posts: 491
Nov 23, 2008 3:06 PM GMT
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Good luck Onslaught! I wish you the best with your new guy! As for the other guys, you cannot control what they write or tell your friends. I would just ignore them or better yet, wish them the best and say that you are so happy for them. When they realize it doesn't bother you, the writing and gossiping will end!!
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Nov 23, 2008 3:37 PM GMT
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I DONT HAVE A NEW GUY, JUST DATING, NOT GONNA GET SEXUAL.

IM NOT READY FOR THAT...

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, ITS PETTY THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SO BITCH AND TALK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE.

I DO WISH THEM THE BEST, BUT FEEL SORRY FOR THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
kRakaJak Posts: 163
Nov 23, 2008 3:55 PM GMT
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how's that std aaron?
and you're feeling sorry for who now??
onstagebuffna... Posts: 50
Nov 23, 2008 3:55 PM GMT
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It's the ego.

Those with strong egos often need to make themselves right so someone else can be wrong. Put others down to they can feel up.

And just move on.


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Nov 23, 2008 3:57 PM GMT
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Rex dude stop it already man, Im feeling sorry for other people.

You need to relax man,I dont know how you expect me to be your friend if you keep being a puss about shit.

you have a new guy, Im trying as well, so let it go man.


The more you say bad lies about me, the sooner you will get kicked off again. Have already been warned, be an adult man. You are in love with another, let us go already man.
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Nov 23, 2008 4:00 PM GMT
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God can't we both just be happy and leave each other alone?


What the hell, let shit go, trocks is a nice guy, focus on him now.
kRakaJak Posts: 163
Nov 23, 2008 4:02 PM GMT
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sorry aaron. you're so right. i get booted and what do i have???
oh wait i'll still have the guy i'm in love with.
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Nov 23, 2008 4:07 PM GMT
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Good, Im happy for you....

I wasnt before because of how things went. Now I see that I have to be happy for you, you were once a friend above all else.

Remember that man, love that man with all your heart.
You dont know what love is though, you told me you loved me after two days ha-ha.

Two days after we split you love another guy? wtf ha-ha

I feel bad for you, you're lost , but good luck man he is a nice guy.

Don't be a a bitter queer and say I have an STD when I just had kidney stones, that is just low, even for you.

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Nov 23, 2008 4:17 PM GMT
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Onslaught,
"Let the cliché’s begin"....

Life is not always fair, nor does it always make sense. One of the constants in life is change and at a "young age", like yours, you and others of a similar age are getting a taste of the variety of partners available.
If, and when, relationships end, nobody wants to let the other know that they are hurting, so they put on a strong, happy, successful face and are going to only show you and tell you about the huge "prize" they just got after you. It's an act.
I agree in part with GG's post about going for older guys. They will treat you better and usually have already gotten out of that "playing the field" phase.
Realize something.....just because some guy pays attention to you when you are out at the clubs, or you see some guy that you lust after, doesn't mean that you need to be immediate life partners. A relationship takes time and effort to establish and nurture. I think this is the lesson that all of those "hurts" and failed relationships has to teach to younger people and is why older guys are out of that game phase...they have learned that lesson.
You are a very handsome man and I could see why you would be so attractive to so many. Don't give away your heart so quickly and take the time to learn about the person that wants your heart. Respect yourself mentally and "spiritually" as much as you appear to respect yourself physically. You are allowed to set a standard for the person you want to find and you can be flexible. I have always lived by the rule that I will treat someone the way I want to be treated. No one want to be hurt or bested, so don't do it.
After reading your profile and looking at all of your photos, I thought this youtube song would appeal to the "animal shelter" reference, although it doesn't fit the style of music in your playlist.....all the same. Take care and good luck.
Sporty_G


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Nov 23, 2008 4:48 PM GMT
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thanks man, im fine though....


sure i was sad and asked for some help....


i dont need it anymore, things didnt work, shit happens.

Im happy for the guy now, yet he cant let shit go now.
Im trying to be an adult but this is getting way to crazy here.
MikemikeMike Posts: 1151
Nov 23, 2008 4:51 PM GMT
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Triggerman saidYou only have control over you.

From what you wrote, you pick losers. Maybe hot cute losers but losers nonetheless.

You need to understand why you pick these guys. What made you pick these guys? Did they have something you think you lack? We ALL do that. But we all should learn from those mistakes. Really learn. Saying the guy was a dick or a jerk or whatever may be true but it teaches you nothing to learn about yourself. What did you need from them?

Everyone, no matter how old or young, makes mistakes in love. We all do, you are definitely not alone. But the important thing is to learn from each mistake. Why him? Why did I pick him? What did I lack? Where did I think he would complete me?

Falling for the wrong guy is no failure. Not learning is. So learn from it. Learn your weaknesses, and work to improve that area. Believe me, those losers are not very happy people anyway. It is good you found that out now.

Talk to friends. They usually see the losers we date before we do. Be honest with them and yourself. Be brutally honest and ask them what you need to be a better person and how you can improve. So, that next time you will see the mistakes before you make them.

Otherwise, just be a good decent honest guy. Another good guy will find you.

JW

Agreed- as I said in another post live and learn- It's the learn part most poeple forget to do!!
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Nov 23, 2008 4:52 PM GMT
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i am learning and getting over shit.


I even went on a date and had protein cookies at his house.

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Nov 23, 2008 5:04 PM GMT
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Like sands through the hour glass, so are the Gays of Our Lives!!!!


redbull Posts: 170
Nov 24, 2008 3:52 PM GMT
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I think this saying is so true, thought it might help you out...


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Nov 24, 2008 5:08 PM GMT
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wow that is great, and it sure is true.
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Nov 24, 2008 5:52 PM GMT
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Onslaught, has some deep issues, but, plays the victim.

I hear herpes sucks.

You know you're fucked up when you get caught stalking kajakark.

You know you're fucked up when you get caught lying.

You know you're fucked up when you send paranoid emails to guys on your ex's hot list.

You know you're fucked up when your picture morphs get discovered and exposed by not one, but, several rj members.

We still don't know kajakark, (onslaught's ex) and have exchanges less than 100 words, but, onslaught cyberstalking him, his angry, paranoid, emails, and his morphed pictures (exposed by another member, and inspected by flex89) are all clear-cut evidence that onslaught is not handling his situation appropriately.

Just for the record, onslaught, Logan documented your crazy paranoid emails, your morphs, and your cyber-stalking and sent it all along to the folks that run the site. I've saved your nutcase stuff that you sent us, unsolicited, as well, and I have corresponded with the folks here about you as well, and they have my home office phone number, and know how to be in touch with us should you persist.

You're beyond needing just some empathy and friendly advice. You need to seek a pro's treatment.

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Nov 24, 2008 11:59 PM GMT
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omg chucky get a life dude.


seriously man its funny....

Stop saying im stalking anyone, lol dude Krakajak and I both mutually repeatedly messaged each other and both yelled at each other.
Stop bring him into shit, dude you need to go do something, you really do.

morphed pics? dude you and your roomie and some skinny old guy brought the flaws out in my pics. In those pics, it even said I fucked up on them. My photo editor/resizer fucked them up. I even posted the original pics that I tried to fix. LOOK AT THEM, NO MORHES AND NO FLAWS.
THE PICS THAT ARE STILL FUCKED UP ARE STILL ON MY PROFILE. I MESSED THEM UP, EVEN SAID THEY WERE MESSED UP AND MADE ME LOOK BIGGER. TO SAY I MORPHED THEM IS JUST STUPID, THE ORINGINAL PIS ARE RIGHT THERE, AND LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME, WITH NO FLAWS.


YOUR POINTS AND EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS PROVEN WRONG EVERY TIME.

YOU LOST MAN, GIVE IT UP....


You keep saying im lying about something, dude you are crazy.
I have the mental issues? everyone is laughing at you because you are being a loon on here.


HERPES? where the fuck did that come from lol, random and and odd thing to say. Like you have done, keep pulling shit out of your ass to make yourself look better. You must be talkin about the "STD" thing my ex talked about, right? Um I told my ex I think I got an infection from fucking a dude but it turned out to be that I have kidney stones and passed them. Dude you are getting way to far with your stories. Know the situation before you open your mouth. Unlike you, I know most guys on my bud list in person. Yeah I have actually friends, not online fake ones. They all know what I look like and know I don't have herpes. If I had herpes, why would some have slept with me huh? Have fun with your online life.

It must be a hard life for you, you must have been beaten up as a kid.

go away already...or if you want come here so i can put you in your place.


LIKE I SAID IN ANOTHER POST, I KNOW A WEBMASTER FROM ANOTHER WEBSITE THAT IS FRIENDS WITH THE REALJOCK WEBMASTER. I WONT BE A DICK JUST YET BUT IF I NEED TO I WILL CONTACT HIM AND YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM REALJOCK FOREVER.

what do you think about that chucky?
stop being a jerk, its really dumb and your lies arent helping you at all.

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Hi I'm chucky! waaaaaaanna play? I have no life and have to invade other lives.

ha-ha is this where the picture game starts? Remember, the more you talk shit about me the closer you are to get banned.
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