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coldice Posts: 3
Jul 23, 2008 11:18 AM GMT
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Hi ALL,


I am 28 yrs old from the Philippines.

I am wondering why a lot of older white men visit to Manila/Bangkok/Jakarta to look for younger partner that can be also their son… 18 – 22 yrs old.

I’m nothing against the idea but the trend keeps on growing. In western countries old gay men can not find a partner to love them?

Hope to give me some light on this and hear your opinions.


TD22 Posts: 871
Jul 23, 2008 5:30 PM GMT
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And I wonder why so many young ones from Thailand and philippines and Indonesia keep hitting on older guys on the NET?
masculineone Posts: 28
Jul 23, 2008 5:37 PM GMT
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Seems like it's something they both like or get an advantage from. Many young asians get lavish gifts or inherit significant somes of money and often don't have to work much to get it. Maybe youth craves maturity and stability while age craves excitement and energy? Who knows? I just hope it lasts till I get old. I love asians too! ^^)
Bunjamon Posts: 286
Jul 23, 2008 5:57 PM GMT
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It's a form of sexual tourism. Many older men with penchants for *ahem* pedophilic encounters can go to Southeast Asia and rent boys/young men with almost no fear of criminal prosecution. It has nothing to do with their ability to find partners in their own countries, nor with the fact that the boys happen to be Asian; it's the satiation of a fetish which Western cultures finds unacceptable, and since an outlet is provided in these SE Asian countries, guess where the men go?
coldice Posts: 3
Jul 23, 2008 7:35 PM GMT
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masculineone - yeah... i think 99% of your idea is true... asian young guys get a lot of lavish gifts from these old white guys... but why these old white guys loves to do gift giving... thou they already know money cant buy love - but I will be honest that I've seen a lot of relationship like these works and love prevails...

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Jul 23, 2008 9:05 PM GMT
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TurkishDelight saidAnd I wonder why so many young ones from Thailand and philippines and Indonesia keep hitting on older guys on the NET?

hahahahahahah the irony of it all!
nautilie7 Posts: 101
Aug 25, 2008 7:09 PM GMT
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TurkishDelight saidAnd I wonder why so many young ones from Thailand and philippines and Indonesia keep hitting on older guys on the NET?


Because they're hot, lol (I'm Indonesian)
nautilie7 Posts: 101
Aug 25, 2008 7:18 PM GMT
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coldice saidmasculineone - yeah... i think 99% of your idea is true... asian young guys get a lot of lavish gifts from these old white guys... but why these old white guys loves to do gift giving... thou they already know money cant buy love - but I will be honest that I've seen a lot of relationship like these works and love prevails...



I guess it's because the Asian culture, like concubine and so on still exist even in a big cities.

Maybe it's like this : The younger one gives his allegiance to the older, in return the older support the younger one.

This kind of lifestyle is very - very common in a straight relationships. Many straight guys in Asia (especially the wealthy one), have a double life. They have their wife, yet they still with another woman (or man) elsewhere.
Alpha13 Posts: 330
Aug 25, 2008 7:20 PM GMT
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i wonder why the young asians are interested in the old white guys?
nautilie7 Posts: 101
Aug 25, 2008 8:56 PM GMT
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Alpha13 saidi wonder why the young asians are interested in the old white guys?


Maybe, they are a new experience for the young Asians ..
TallGWMvballe... Posts: 853
Aug 25, 2008 9:06 PM GMT
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Maybe us older White guys ALWAYS have admired and appreciated Asians but were unable to go to Asia and in American culture older white men are shunned by the gay community including other White guys.

Myself, my first love was with an Asian guy but I am attracted to ALL ages of Asian men not just the young ones.
Sedative Posts: 5407
Aug 25, 2008 9:27 PM GMT
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Alpha13 saidi wonder why the young asians are interested in the old white guys?


Do you like Asians? There's your answer. Often it's usually only older white guys who give us the time of the day.
a1972guy Posts: 1934
Aug 25, 2008 9:34 PM GMT
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Um, it's not JUST Asians; they like their younger Latin "boys" too!!!!
rouxbot Posts: 36
Aug 25, 2008 9:55 PM GMT
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i also always have old white men hitting on me: the attention is nice but it really frustrates me when they don't take the hint, or go one step forward and try and touch me in a bar. one or two compliments are nice but it gets really creepy when you try to fondle me in public.

sometimes these men act like they have every right because other young asians are receptive to their advances. i find some older men hot but they're generally considered good looking guys, so i can't say i rule out "old" white men completely. i'm definitely not saying i'm hot or anything of the sort but there is clearly is a gauge of how cute one is; whether he has the "attactive capital" (whether it be personality and/or looks) to approach another. i sometimes find that the stereotypical "old white man" forgets all about that when they see that i'm asian and hit on me (and expect a positive response) simply based on my race.

i want to emphasize that i'm not complaining at all that people hit on me, what i'm complaining about, i guess, is that there seems to be a separate set of "rules" when it comes to asian interactions with older white men that i never subscribed to so it seems a little unfair when these guys operate under the belief that i have. but i guess its similar to the "all black guys have huge cocks" theory - its just something one has to deal with, and there isn't much we can do about it.
Sedative Posts: 5407
Aug 25, 2008 10:06 PM GMT
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I too don't mind it. As with younger men, I'm attracted to some older men and not to some, etc. The bad thing about it is that, in an asian-older guy relationship, people immediately assume it's a sugardaddy-boytoy kinda thing.

If it's only older men who take the time to get to know us, of course it'd be much more likely that we end up with them. Age is seldom a factor. And yet people will say oh he's going out with him just for the money, or the stability, or worse, the visa.

Fuck that, we can choose for ourselves too.
TallGWMvballe... Posts: 853
Aug 25, 2008 11:01 PM GMT
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rasiya saidi also always have old white men hitting on me: the attention is nice but it really frustrates me when they don't take the hint, or go one step forward and try and touch me in a bar. one or two compliments are nice but it gets really creepy when you try to fondle me in public.

sometimes these men act like they have every right because other young asians are receptive to their advances. i find some older men hot but they're generally considered good looking guys, so i can't say i rule out "old" white men completely. i'm definitely not saying i'm hot or anything of the sort but there is clearly is a gauge of how cute one is; whether he has the "attactive capital" (whether it be personality and/or looks) to approach another. i sometimes find that the stereotypical "old white man" forgets all about that when they see that i'm asian and hit on me (and expect a positive response) simply based on my race.

i want to emphasize that i'm not complaining at all that people hit on me, what i'm complaining about, i guess, is that there seems to be a separate set of "rules" when it comes to asian interactions with older white men that i never subscribed to so it seems a little unfair when these guys operate under the belief that i have. but i guess its similar to the "all black guys have huge cocks" theory - its just something one has to deal with, and there isn't much we can do about it.




As an older White guy I take offense that put all of us in that category.

I know of NO SUCH "different set of rules because you are Asian"
Personally I treat everyone fairly even though MOST younger guys of any race treat older guys ANYthing but fairly and I would never make those kinds of touching advances as you describe.
McGay Posts: 3173
Aug 25, 2008 11:16 PM GMT
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tommo Posts: 68
Aug 25, 2008 11:20 PM GMT
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McGay said


Sorry, the dollar isn't worth much here Colleagues and I joke about going to the states to "abuse the currency"
aries_pal Posts: 20
Aug 30, 2008 11:09 PM GMT
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nautilie7 said
TurkishDelight saidAnd I wonder why so many young ones from Thailand and philippines and Indonesia keep hitting on older guys on the NET?


Because they're hot, lol (I'm Indonesian)


Really?? Hey I'm Indonesian too!!

And also for the previous post, I have never been hitting on old white guys on the NET! In fact, some of the guys are a little bit too forceful (I reject politely, and they kept on trying to date and stalk me all the time)

But I do want a guy within at most 10 years older than me because they have to be able to handle me and dominate me so I don't screw things up

And others say it's all about money and gifts, HELL NO my parents always spoil me (I think it's a cultural thing for parents to spoil their kids in higher income families in Asia), so I don't really need another figure to spoil me..
Pattison Posts: 1984
Aug 30, 2008 11:23 PM GMT
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TD22 saidAnd I wonder why so many young ones from Thailand and philippines and Indonesia keep hitting on older guys on the NET?

Not just on the net. In bars and clubs too.
Pattison Posts: 1984
Aug 30, 2008 11:32 PM GMT
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I'm sorry. And how many parents of these young children are happy too rent their children out, for the financial rewards. Or even sell em to these old white men?

You provide the service.

Why do so many young str8 white men, whom have no trouble picking up white chicks, go to these country's for the same reason?

Why do these countries pollute our country's with drugs. For their own financial gain.

Oh if my country found out a male went to One of these countries to abuse an under age child. We would put them in jail too.
Global_Citize... Posts: 941
Aug 31, 2008 12:05 AM GMT
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coldice said
I am wondering why a lot of older white men visit to Manila/Bangkok/Jakarta to look for younger partner that can be also their son… 18 – 22 yrs old.

I'm going to quibble just a bit with your premise. You state this as if the purpose of traveling to Asian countries is to find young partners.

Isn't it possible that these older gay men are men who like to travel and have the money to do so? And while they are there, there is plenty of available and attractive company? Who wouldn't like to socialize with attractive young locals?
aidikay Posts: 9
Aug 31, 2008 12:22 AM GMT
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coldice saidHi ALL,


I am 28 yrs old from the Philippines.

I am wondering why a lot of older white men visit to Manila/Bangkok/Jakarta to look for younger partner that can be also their son… 18 – 22 yrs old.

I’m nothing against the idea but the trend keeps on growing. In western countries old gay men can not find a partner to love them?

Hope to give me some light on this and hear your opinions.




Two days ago, three friends of mine went fishing. They were two beginners and a more experienced one. In the complex, the experienced one said, "Let's go to the pomfret pond, since they are much easier to catch even though the pond is a little bit further than the 'gurame' ponds." His argument was that they would get the reward with less effort.

I am perfectly aware that NOT ALL old white guys think like this or even are attracted to young asians, but in my opinion, the small fraction that visit those countries ESPECIALLY looking for the boys, might think like that.

Since I'm using the word 'gurame', yeah, I'm Indonesian too.
Sedative Posts: 5407
Aug 31, 2008 12:40 AM GMT
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As a filipino, Gouramis (Gurami in our language - Bisaya), are a bitch to catch! LOL

Their mouths are too small, and they peck at the bait rather than swallow it like the other fish. They're beautiful fish though, if a bit belligerent.
meninlove Posts: 1143
Aug 31, 2008 3:04 AM GMT
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Now here's a completely different take, as I know a few older guys that like young Asian men.

These guys ALWAYS liked young Asian men, even when THEY were young. Guess what? They were almost impossible to find here in North America as most were not out.

As our young white men grew older and amassed wealth, they travelled to Asian countries and voila, found a lot of hot Asian guys.

Of course, by then, most of these young white men were now OLD.

Here in Canada, it's common to see young white guys with young asian guys or black guys or brown guys or red guys (north american natives) or green guys or fushia guys or, er, never mind.
aries_pal Posts: 20
Aug 31, 2008 4:10 AM GMT
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Sedative saidAs a filipino, Gouramis (Gurami in our language - Bisaya), are a bitch to catch! LOL

Their mouths are too small, and they peck at the bait rather than swallow it like the other fish. They're beautiful fish though, if a bit belligerent.


TRUE! Gurames are very tricky but delicious
When I was back home, I used to have a big pond behind my house full of Gurame, Ikan Lele, and Ikan Mas! lol Sedative, do you know those fishes I mentioned?

Wow there are more Indonesians here? I didn't know that we have so many gays! I need to go back home!! X)
nautilie7 Posts: 101
Aug 31, 2008 11:18 AM GMT
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Sedative saidAs a filipino, Gouramis (Gurami in our language - Bisaya), are a bitch to catch! LOL

Their mouths are too small, and they peck at the bait rather than swallow it like the other fish. They're beautiful fish though, if a bit belligerent.


I usually eat it only in a party, not quite like it..
nautilie7 Posts: 101
Aug 31, 2008 11:27 AM GMT
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aries_pal said
Sedative saidAs a filipino, Gouramis (Gurami in our language - Bisaya), are a bitch to catch! LOL

Their mouths are too small, and they peck at the bait rather than swallow it like the other fish. They're beautiful fish though, if a bit belligerent.


TRUE! Gurames are very tricky but delicious
When I was back home, I used to have a big pond behind my house full of Gurame, Ikan Lele, and Ikan Mas! lol Sedative, do you know those fishes I mentioned?

Wow there are more Indonesians here? I didn't know that we have so many gays! I need to go back home!! X)


Hell yeah.. I got lots of gay friends in Indonesia. Unfortunately I had always liked a straight guys.. Back in Highschool..
Sedative Posts: 5407
Aug 31, 2008 6:13 PM GMT
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Er. I'm not Indonesian. I'm filipino. Hehe. And no I don't recognize those fishes.

We have um... Puyo (Perch), Haloan (A slimy eel-like fish), Paitan (Bitterling?), Karpa (Carp), Tilapia, Kasili (True Eel), Two-Spot Gourami... hm... that's all I can remember from my boyhood. Heh. At least the ones large enough to eat. Also our Gouramis are small and aren't edible. They make beautiful aquarium fish though.
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