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Well it didn't take long did it? I understand James Dobson, founder of "Focus on the Family" has accused Obama of treating the bible and its interpretation with a lack of respect.

I find the comments especially disturbing. Nothing will unite the Democrats like this kind of distortion.

HndsmKansan saidWell it didn't take long did it? I understand James Dobson, founder of "Focus on the Family" has accused Obama of treating the bible and its interpretation with a lack of respect.

I find the comments especially disturbing. Nothing will unite the Democrats like this kind of distortion.

He also said that Obama used the "cherry picked" quotes from the bible to support his "fruitcake interpretation" of the constitution.... because apparently a former constitutional law professor wouldnt know how to interpret the consitution. and Dobson's choice of language was obviously a veiled swipe at the gays and an attempt to portray Obama in a negative light for associating with us. Dobson is almost as bad as ann kolter, the b|tch.

and i am just curious, does anyone else constantly get the annoying banner advertisment for John McCain that has the Iranian president and Obama next to each other asking if its okay to meet with foreign leaders? You know if you click yes it still takes you to the same website......

jjdayz saidand i am just curious, does anyone else constantly get the annoying banner advertisment for John McCain that has the Iranian president and Obama next to each other asking if its okay to meet with foreign leaders? You know if you click yes it still takes you to the same website......

haha yes I do get that banner, and I get the ad thats for McCain's campaign website. I'd expect that kind of thing from myspace but certainly not here!

Just goes to show...McCain is reaching out to the gay community.

What's the problem? The OP said it was the right wing... Oh wait... huh?

I hope McCain wins. Anybody who doesn't think Iran is a real threat should move to Southern Lebanon and tell me what you think after you meet some Hezbola soldiers. They are of Iran you know.

slapaho18 saidI hope McCain wins. Anybody who doesn't think Iran is a real threat should move to Southern Lebanon and tell me what you think after you meet some Hezbola soldiers. They are of Iran you know.

So your approach would be to elect McCain and your belief would be he would get Iran out of Lebanon?
Should we get Syria out of Lebanon as well?

So the Iranians are the baddies? So we take care of them too?

I'm just asking questions that I want you to answer and btw, what does this have to do with the right wing attack on Obama?

Dobson seems to have really stuck himself out on a political "Limb" lately, I cannot help but agree, he's sounding more and more deperate like Coulter/limbaugh types to find something against Obama. Somehow though this time around the public just don't seem to be buying it like the bullshit they put out there when Kerry was running. Actually these latest efforts from the right just "embarass themselves", I just read tonight that the same group that wrote the book about Kerry, of "swift boat" fame, have come out with one about Obama, which should be out soon. God I hope Obama hits back hard, so passivity like Kerry tried doesn't bring him down in the same way it did Kerry. I think we'll see some major efforts from the right this time, that may make the past look like childs play.

realifedad said God I hope Obama hits back hard, so passivity like Kerry tried doesn't bring him down in the same way it did Kerry. I think we'll see some major efforts from the right this time, that may make the past look like childs play.

Obama will hit back hard. Look for him to premptivly strike at republican fear tactics in the coming weeks. With the new news about McSame's aide saying the best thing that could happen would be a terrorist attack on the US before the election, you can bet that the heat is going to get turned up very quickly. There is a saying, "what goes around...." Well i think the republican party is going to get their come arounds this election cycle if they keep this negativity around. The american public is sick of the politics of fear and it is about played out.

Guys like Dobson are an embarrassment to some of us Republicans. We aren't all like that.

Senator Obama had better learn to handle the heat though, there are real issues that make him vulnerable.

I heard the term "flip-flop" on CNN yesterday, directed at Obama's campaign. I thought, "Here we go again."

But when you have nothing else to aim at, you start to make things up and SPIN, SPIN, SPIN - art the Right side has perfected.

John43620 saidGuys like Dobson are an embarrassment to some of us Republicans. We aren't all like that.

Senator Obama had better learn to handle the heat though, there are real issues that make him vulnerable.

Obama seems to take the heat quite well, as demonstrated by his defeat of Clinton. If you think the Clinton's do not know how to play hard ball then you must live under a rock.


There are way more issues that make McCain vulnerable.

It kills me everyday to have McCain's "republican conservative credentials" thrown in my face when he doesn't really represent them at all.

Senator Obama was only scrutinized closely in the media during the last months of the primaries, when Hillary made her come back, it was too little too late for Hillary but still very telling.

So does that demonstrate the power of the media to influence elections?

John43620 saidSo does that demonstrate the power of the media to influence elections?

By influencing elections you mean brainwashing the brainwashable, then yes.

the media is in control of the information so of course they are able to inflence the discussions. The problem is that they gloss over facts that are negative to one candidate and constantly repeat the negatives about the other.

What we really need is a couple more politial parties so that we have real choices at election time.

I personally will be voting for Obama, not because i believe he is the best qualified, but because i prescribe to his vision of what the United States could be if we all work together to accomplish things.

I have not heard anything from McCain so far except how he supports the policies of GWshrub and wants to create a "psychological benefit" in the minds of the american voters by drilling for oil off our shores.

Being old and experienced does not automatically make you leader the same as being young and inexperienced does not automatically make you less qualified to lead.

John43620 saidSenator Obama was only scrutinized closely in the media during the last months of the primaries, when Hillary made her come back, it was too little too late for Hillary but still very telling.

I keep wondering what kind of scrutiny we expected form the media when Obama has more than forthcoming with his demons and details of his past... The candor and confessions offered up in any of his books have gone far beyond the disclosure of any president or candidate I've ever seen. What was left to be scrutinized? Are we looking for legitimate news or US weekly material?

It must be TRUE now!

Now THAT's what I call scrutiny. Bravo, media.

ohhh i am running to the store now to pick that up! enquiring minds want to know!!!

Dobson is a Bigot liek most of the RIgt Wing Christian types Only differemce between Dobson and OBL is Dobson does not have the COJONES to use arms to get what he wants. I do not trust any Political who actively recurits support from the Celergy especially NUT CASES like Dobson. Bush got his support in 2000 and we had the NEO NAZIS doing a lock step to vote in 2004 against Civil Rights. THANK YOU GOP

I actually followed this with great interest. Dobson's comments were pretty transparently based on religious extremism, and I think if you look at both sides of the dialog, I think it makes Obama look even more intelligent in his position.

I would have liked to see Obama take one further step and call out the parallel between this kind of ridiculous bible thumping and the same sort of Islamic fundimentalism that led to 9/11. I think the problem is that McCain has already made it very clear that he isn't going to cater to the Religious Right. This has some members of the Obama team trying hard not to offend evangelists, since they are a potential group of GOP defectors. Unfortunately, I think that means Obama will speak very softly on this issue.

jjdayz do you want to go thur Highland Park or UP and put Rainbow stickers on McCains lawn signs weekend of Pride here in Dallas?

rainbow stickers? why stop there? Lets put them on their cars too!

I thought it very interesting that Dobson's remarks came right after a study that was released and given media attention had revealed that people who practice faith actually respect differences to a large degree.

With this said, the study suggests that people who regularly attend church don't actually wear religion on their sleeves when they vote. I think Dobson realized by this study that conservatives are not as tightly wound up with social issues as they were in the 2004 elections and felt a need to tighten up the ranks with former front-and-center issues as gay rights and abortion.

John43620 saidGuys like Dobson are an embarrassment to some of us Republicans. We aren't all like that.

Senator Obama had better learn to handle the heat though, there are real issues that make him vulnerable.

I happen to agree. I grew up in Colorado Springs, and have no good feelings towards Dobson what so ever. That said, I hope the Republicans just take a step back and let Obama do his own undoing. If he thinks this is being scrutinized, he won't know what hit him in the months to come.

I often lean Republican myself, but am likely an Obama defector in this election... Part of the reason I am impressed with Obama is that I think he can handle nearly anything that gets slung at him with dignity. That's exactly what we need in a president.

Considering how eloquently Obama handled the Wright race issue, in a speech that he apparently wrote mostly on his own, I am looking forward to watching him dodge the crackpots in the months ahead. I think he is already well prepared.

BTW folks:

a) Dobson has already been harshly critical of McCain as well, but the media didn't pick up on it as strongly;

b) Obama and McCain are not radically different in their positions on gay rights. There are differences to be sure, but it's not like night and day;

c) McCain is VERY different from Bush. I keep seeing "McBush" comments everywhere, on political blogs, all over the comments in responses to political commentaries in news portals, etc., and I just don't get it. The two men hate each other, and have vastly different positions on a wide variety of issues.

James Dobson is nothing more than an ignorant, loudmouthed religious extremist who will say anything to get publicity. He also has a horrible habit of forgetting that the holy bible is wide open to differant interpretations not just one rigid interpreptation. Dobson obviously is full of shit so I do not pay any serious attention him.

Damn guys !!!!!! I just read on NewsMax.com where Dobson has just come out with a statement on Hannity, that he is "Terrified" by the idea of Obama being president, in part because now Dobson is claiming that Obama is pro partial birth abortion, and he proceeds to take Obams's statements out of context to make this point. Dobson further stated that Obama "ISN'T TRUTHFULL". MY GOD WHAT A DAMN FOOL !!!! Dobson backed (and still does) the administration with the notoriety of having the worst record of outright lieing of any previous administration, and has record low approval ratings in the main, because of his untruthfullness !!! THESE GUYS ON THE FAR RIGHT ARE DESPARATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a far right guy and I'm not desparate. If Senator Obama becomes president I can handle it, I'll continue to be a good citizen. He'll probably be better than Bill Clinton.
If Senator Obama does win, you'll just have to endure my gloating when he screws up, and screws us.

I'm not convinced that Hillary is really out of the running though.

[quote]John43620 said
If Senator Obama does win, you'll just have to endure my gloating when he screws up, and screws us.[/quote]

John,
I'll take a chance.

LittleDudeWithMuscles said[quote]John43620 said
If Senator Obama does win, you'll just have to endure my gloating when he screws up, and screws us.

John,
I'll take a chance.[/quote]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'll be taking my chances right along with you LDWMuscles !!!! Hell !!! Obama would have to really put in some unheard of effort to f--k up worse than the bush and company has !!!!!!!!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Have you been reading about the right's, and the media's latest desparate effort to make Obama Look like a McSame flip flopper? Obama made some statement about "refining" his plans to bringing the troops home upon more conversations with the generals on the ground. Well the media "JUMPED ON THAT LIKE STINK ON SHIT" LOL !!!!! Thought they had him changing his mind because he used the word "REFINE", and made it into he might be going to "change his mind about the troops coming home" Obama was quick to call them on it, and reminded them that he hadn't said one word about changing his plans to bring the troops home, that his refining statement had to do with how many to leave behind and where, based on what the Generals said. Somehow I hope they get the point to spend their time on real issues instead of trying to make them appear out of nothing. Obama is in for some real battles, but I think he's up to the task !!!!

realifedad said Damn guys !!!!!! I just read on NewsMax.com where Dobson has just come out with a statement on Hannity, that he is "Terrified" by the idea of Obama being president, in part because now Dobson is claiming that Obama is pro partial birth abortion, and he proceeds to take Obams's statements out of context to make this point. Dobson further stated that Obama "ISN'T TRUTHFULL". MY GOD WHAT A DAMN FOOL !!!! Dobson backed (and still does) the administration with the notoriety of having the worst record of outright lieing of any previous administration, and has record low approval ratings in the main, because of his untruthfullness !!! THESE GUYS ON THE FAR RIGHT ARE DESPARATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same old cast of extremists' on the left here and other anti-republican rhetoric that cherry picks the worst of statements re: one candidate while ignoring the same person saying McCain is just as bad... If y'all plan to report dont be a left wing nut who refuses to acknowledge the full context of the authors statements and releases...

As previously mentioned, or touched on... he refused to even say McCain was a lesser of evils, instead he stated he would not vote in that race nor issue an endorsement. And I also agree that the undoing of Obama will have nothing to do with the right or middle, instead it will be his own undoing thru his self destruction. NO ONE WITHOUT CORE VALUES CAN WIN in the end. {simply my opinion, just as valid and correct as others here claiming McCain is 'far right'}

We all have our opinions, and each is correct to some. Your Beliefs, just because it is how u feel does not make it gospel for all...


FOOD FOR THOUGHT: If the republican pres. nominee-designate and running maate were Biden and Dodd these same people would be claiming they were part of the right wing nut extremist conspiracy...
DOUBT IT.... Check out what the democratic party is saying about such a great man like Liberman, and how the liberal press has picked up those talking points and ran with it.

WHY? ***Because he had the nerve to put his country above party politics....

Liberman is great for our country?

Oh, Lieberman! Sorry, thought I'd found a new pariah to bash.

PRDGUY saidNO ONE WITHOUT CORE VALUES CAN WIN in the end.

Not to be cynical, but name a politician with core values.

PRDGUY said NO ONE WITHOUT CORE VALUES CAN WIN

This is the usual Republican gibberish.

Fact: McCain denounced Bush's tax plans in 2001 and 2002, saying they were too tilted to the rich. Now he intends to make them permanent.

Fact: McCain denounces the evils of the fundamentalists in 2000, and again through 2002, calling them "agents of intolerance." Fact: Now he courts their support and has changed his views on several issues to try to win them.

Fact: Wesley Clark is correct, despite all the right-wing fake outrage. Getting shot down IS not much of a qualification for being President. It doesn't tell against him, but it certainly doesn't tell for him either. It is irrelevant. But fake outrage is the Republican way.

And you lecture ANYONE about "core values"? Have you no shame at ALL?

jprichva said
Fact: Wesley Clark is correct, despite all the right-wing fake outrage. Getting shot down IS not much of a qualification for being President.

I wouldn't say so either, but honor is due for someone who was imprisoned and tortured for serving our nation. There are no two ways about it, and under no circumstances can it cast shadows on his character.
Your point was very clear; and now I'm making one.

I say that he has sacrificed personally for our nation and that shows a relevant desire and willingness: to serve our nation to the best of his abilities.

And that is all that can be asked of anyone.

Personally, I would have a warrior who KNOWS the realities of war and the burden in which it places on our soldiers as my president, rather than a lawyer.

Buckwheet saidPersonally, I would have a warrior who KNOWS the realities of war and the burden in which it places on our soldiers as my president, rather than a lawyer.

Let's hope neither wants war. I'm curious to see who the VP picks are, and what cabinet suggestions each has in mind. This will be a better determinant of where their loyalties/intentions lie. I think the past is just that.

I say that he has sacrificed personally for our nation and that shows a relevant desire and willingness: to serve our nation to the best of his abilities.

And that is all that can be asked of anyone.

Again, irrelevant. There are plenty of people who have sacrificed for their country, and are more than willing to serve to the best of their abilities, but that does not necessarily make them presidential material.

Yes, those are good qualities, but not the only ones, and there are certainly plenty of people who have those qualities who are not presidential material.

PRDGUY said[quote][cite]realifedad said[/cite] Damn guys !!!!!! I just read on NewsMax.com where Dobson has just come out with a statement on Hannity, that he is "Terrified" by the idea of Obama being president, in part because now Dobson is claiming that Obama is pro partial birth abortion, and he proceeds to take Obams's statements out of context to make this point. Dobson further stated that Obama "ISN'T TRUTHFULL". MY GOD WHAT A DAMN FOOL !!!! Dobson backed (and still does) the administration with the notoriety of having the worst record of outright lieing of any previous administration, and has record low approval ratings in the main, because of his untruthfullness !!! THESE GUYS ON THE FAR RIGHT ARE DESPARATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same old cast of extremists' on the left here and other anti-republican rhetoric that cherry picks the worst of statements re: one candidate while ignoring the same person saying McCain is just as bad... If y'all plan to report dont be a left wing nut who refuses to acknowledge the full context of the authors statements and releases...

As previously mentioned, or touched on... he refused to even say McCain was a lesser of evils, instead he stated he would not vote in that race nor issue an endorsement. And I also agree that the undoing of Obama will have nothing to do with the right or middle, instead it will be his own undoing thru his self destruction. [b]NO ONE WITHOUT CORE VALUES CAN WIN in the end. {simply my opinion, just as valid and correct as others here claiming McCain is 'far right'} [/b]We all have our opinions, and each is correct to some. Your Beliefs, just because it is how u feel does not make it gospel for all...


FOOD FOR THOUGHT: If the republican pres. nominee-designate and running maate were Biden and Dodd these same people would be claiming they were part of the right wing nut extremist conspiracy...
DOUBT IT.... Check out what the democratic party is saying about such a great man like Liberman, and how the liberal press has picked up those talking points and ran with it.

WHY? ***Because he had the nerve to put his country above party politics....[/quote]




I could not agree with you more, PRDGUY...Obama will ultimately prove to be his own worst nightmare as the late summer and fall rolls around. His arrogance seemingly knows no bounds, and there are signs that it is already starting to wear thin on many.

As for Liberman, now here is a man who deserves another VP nomination, and if he gets it from John McCain not only will this be historic, but it will throw a huge wrench into the dems game-plan. McCain has proven time and time again that he is willing and able to reach across party lines in the interest of getting something done. Both these men have proven that they will put their country above politics. Obama needs to focus on proving he can even be a good Senator before he even THINKS about running for President again should he lose this election.

Enough already about service being a Trump Card to being the next President. This same stupid rhetoric got Vietnam-dodging Bush into the White House and look at what we got.

This same lame tactic was touted when 9/11 happened as people were actually saying out loud that they're glad that Bush was President for 9/11 as opposed to Gore.

If this stupid argument was worth anything, then Kerry would have had a more convincing service record than Bush in the 2004 election.


All this shows is political expedience and smoke and mirrors. Now back to the issues...

P.S. political expedience in this context is defined as the difference between a Republican nominee who served as being worth more than a Democratic nominee who also served. REPUBLICANS DON'T OWN PATRIOTISM NOR ARE THEY MORE PATRIOTIC THAN DEMOCRATS! It happened in the 2006 Congressional races, past and current Presidential races, as mentioned above, and it's an obvious indication of the Republican's outrage at General(r) Wesley Clark's remarks and support for Obama.

coolarmydude, we Republicans certainly do own patriotism.
It was Democrat and president Truman who cut off aid to Chiang kai Chek and now we have the communist running China.
He also hamstringed McArthur in Korea and we still have a problem with kim jong il to this day.

Senator McCain was a victim of the LBJ policy of directing the bombing of North Vietnam from the whitehouse. Our aircraft were restricted to specific corridors and all the NVA had to do was place their ADA in those corridors. Is it patriotic to make our aircrews sitting ducks?

Jimmy Carter, he supported the Sandinistas who repayed his kindness by taking in all the advanced weapons the Soviet Union could send them.
Jimmy Carter, he supported the Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeni who repayed his kindness by taking our embassy staff hostage and now they want to develop nukyular weapons.

Bill Clinton, thanks to him, the communist chinese now have a space program, and can shoot down our satellites and deliver ICBMs to us. Even the Soviet Union was smart enough to withold ICBM technology to China.

Since the end of WW2, the Democrats have always been the best allies the enemies of freedom ever had.

John43620 saidcoolarmydude, we
Since the end of WW2, the Democrats have always been the best allies the enemies of freedom ever had.

Totally agree! Just look at all the money, weapons and support that shifty Democratic president in the 80s gave to Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein....

Oh Wait... Reagan was a Democrat right?... had to be since he's was sooooo good to our enemies

The Soviet Union was the big fish to fry during the cold war and Osama helped us fry them.

Saddam was payback to the Iranians.

When they turned into rabid dogs, the Bush administration dealt with them. Osama is hiding in a cave and Saddam is in a grave.

You younguns just can not appreciate the threat the Soviet Union was. Vote for Obama and we will get them back. Putin wouldn't try to revive the old CCCP if he didn't perceive weakness and all the whining about the Bush administration is just the weakness he's been looking for.