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May 17, 2008 4:04 AM GMT
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THIS LETTER OF CONYERS IS OF MAJOR IMPORTANCE !!!! I found this article today ---Illegal, unilateral, preemptive military action against Iran: Chairman of House Judicial Committee speaks out. Rep. John conyers, has written a letter to bush telling him not to go to war with Iran without approval by the Congress/Senate, He quotes many sections of the constitution, and reiterates bush infractions against it and the powers of the Congress?Senate. The conyers letter can be read at--http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8963
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May 17, 2008 7:15 AM GMT
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It's about time. What the hell took them so long?
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May 17, 2008 7:53 AM GMT
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May 17, 2008 8:00 AM GMT
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The thought of that is really scary (war with IRAN that is). I just think it would break this country in so many ways. We just could not bear that burden now. In fact I am having a hard time thinking that even Bush would be that stupid.
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May 17, 2008 10:17 AM GMT
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May 17, 2008 1:34 PM GMT
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I think it's hilarious that you Democrats are so hell bent on providing terrorists with nuclear weapons. Where do you think they will use them? I doubt red states will feel the brunt of the attacks but major urban areas of blue states are great targets.
I've never seen a broadway show and I love them. I suppose I had better go to New York and see a few while New York is still there.
You can be sure that John Conyers Jr. didn't come up with that idea. I've never seen such an ignorant man in government. He's probably speaking for Maxine Waters. I've never seen such a bitter human than Maxine. Talk about not "making ugly faces or it will freeze like that", Maxine is living proof, her scowl is forever etched on that mug of hers.
Maxine's district is LA, that would make a lucrative target for terrorists. John Conyers Jr.s district is Detroit, that would be a waste of a bomb since Detroit is a thrid world country in itself.
Damn you Democrats are dumb.
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May 17, 2008 2:05 PM GMT
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John43620 saidI think it's hilarious that you Democrats are so hell bent on providing terrorists with nuclear weapons. Where do you think they will use them? I doubt red states will feel the brunt of the attacks but major urban areas of blue states are great targets.
Damn you Democrats are dumb.
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May 17, 2008 2:06 PM GMT
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sooo they don't have enough to go on already? everyone knows he is power hungry and has expanded the power of the executive branch to questionable levels... we have to wait until he invades another country? bah i'm moving... can anyone in australia tell me what the job market for icu nurses is like? haha
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May 17, 2008 2:10 PM GMT
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That's a smart move, get the hell out of Boston. It's a major urban area of a Blue State.
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May 17, 2008 2:53 PM GMT
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They are not going to impeach Bush...not now, not tomorrow, not during the summer, not ever -- deal with it.
As for us going to war with Iran...this also isn't going to happen, not anytime soon anyway, and certainly not unless Congress, NOT the President alone, decides to do so based on perhaps some stunt Iran may pull in the future. One thing is for certain, if Iran arms themselves with a nuclear weapon and decides to wipe Israel off the map, you had better hope we have a President that knows what actions we need to take or else we're all going up in smoke.
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May 17, 2008 3:39 PM GMT
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Wow Congress said something. Maybe this time it will mean something, but probably not.
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May 17, 2008 3:39 PM GMT
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CuriousJockAZ saidThey are not going to impeach Bush...not now, not tomorrow, not during the summer, not ever -- deal with it.
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May 17, 2008 3:40 PM GMT
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John43620 saidThat's a smart move, get the hell out of Boston. It's a major urban area of a Blue State. I understand why it doesn't hold the charm for you that, say, Toledo does. |
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May 17, 2008 3:41 PM GMT
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John43620 said
Damn you Democrats are dumb.
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May 17, 2008 3:42 PM GMT
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May 17, 2008 10:24 PM GMT
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I remember an episode of that sitcom "Democracy Now", it's kind of a parady of the news only not as good as the Daily Show, it's on FSTV. They had John Conyers Jr. on and were discussing the IMF loans to African countries and how these African countries were on the verge of defaulting on the loans. Conyers was ranting and raving about secret American military bases in Africa. Amy Goodman, the moderator was looking for a scoop, you could see the look of anticipation on her face, she was ready. Then she asked the obvious question of Conyers; "where are these bases ?" Conyers stopped, stuttered a little and then said "Well ... I, I don't know". The look on Amy's face was priceless. She was so disappointed but did the old chin up routine.
I missed the rest of the show I was laughing so hard.
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May 17, 2008 10:34 PM GMT
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John43620 said
Damn you Democrats are dumb.
Once again, name calling from the elementary school playground. John, just a suggestion: this technique doesn't usually lead to constructive conversation, assuming you actually want to have a constructive conversation on these topics. As for me, while I respect you as a person, have never called you dumb, have never said you hated your country (and would never say those things to anyone), there is simply no reason for me to engage with you anymore. K |
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May 17, 2008 10:39 PM GMT
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Gwgtrunks saidIt's about time. What the hell took them so long? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU GOT THAT RIGHT !!!! They should have been impeached when we started finding out how they bent the truth to get us into IRAQ, or upon learning that they had given out billions in no bid contracts to their business buddies.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yah Sedative, there are a lot of ominous signs that there is a build up toward war on Iran. ITS BEEN CHENEY'S FAVORITE "WET DREAM" FOR A LONG TIME !!!! Iran is also on their NEW AMERICAN CENTURY/NEOCON list of middle east countries to subdue. Reality keeps stepping in and frustrating their skeems though, thank goodness !!!!! patreas recently had big plans with bush to do a photo op with supposed munitions he had lined up, that were alleged to be brought into Iraq by Iran, but the Iraqies stopped the sherade when they verified that not one of these lined up munitions had come from Iran. AH TRUTH !!!! ITS ALWAYS FRUSTRATING TO THESE NEOCONS!!!!!! |
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May 17, 2008 10:44 PM GMT
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cosmicjewboy said[quote][cite]John43620 said[/cite]
Damn you Democrats are dumb.
Democrats didn't elect George Bush.....twice.[/quote]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL !!!!!! GOOD POINT cosmicjewboy !!!!! Wasn't it the London Times with the headline the day after the election in 2004 that stated----"HOW CAN 57-MILLION PEOPLE BE SO DUMB" !!!!!!!!! |
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May 18, 2008 12:23 AM GMT
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WRITING IN CAPS READS THE SAME AS TYPING NORMAL. Just in case you didn't know.
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May 18, 2008 12:25 AM GMT
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Al Qaeda and all the other enemies of the United States failed to attack us again after 9/11. You're all safe and sound, you can thank the Bush administration for that.
You want change from that? Place your hopes that Al Qaeda will be lienient with us.
Vote for Obama. Vote for Hope and Change.
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May 18, 2008 12:25 AM GMT
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John43620 saidI think it's hilarious that you Democrats are so hell bent on providing terrorists with nuclear weapons. Where do you think they will use them? I doubt red states will feel the brunt of the attacks but major urban areas of blue states are great targets.
I've never seen a broadway show and I love them. I suppose I had better go to New York and see a few while New York is still there.
You can be sure that John Conyers Jr. didn't come up with that idea. I've never seen such an ignorant man in government. He's probably speaking for Maxine Waters. I've never seen such a bitter human than Maxine. Talk about not "making ugly faces or it will freeze like that", Maxine is living proof, her scowl is forever etched on that mug of hers.
Maxine's district is LA, that would make a lucrative target for terrorists. John Conyers Jr.s district is Detroit, that would be a waste of a bomb since Detroit is a thrid world country in itself.
Damn you Democrats are dumb.
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May 18, 2008 12:28 AM GMT
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John43620 saidI remember an episode of that sitcom "Democracy Now", it's kind of a parady of the news only not as good as the Daily Show, it's on FSTV. They had John Conyers Jr. on and were discussing the IMF loans to African countries and how these African countries were on the verge of defaulting on the loans. Conyers was ranting and raving about secret American military bases in Africa. Amy Goodman, the moderator was looking for a scoop, you could see the look of anticipation on her face, she was ready. Then she asked the obvious question of Conyers; "where are these bases ?" Conyers stopped, stuttered a little and then said "Well ... I, I don't know". The look on Amy's face was priceless. She was so disappointed but did the old chin up routine.
I missed the rest of the show I was laughing so hard.
For those who don't know Democracy Now is not a sitcom. But it does discuss serious situations like war and terrorism. What's it gonna be John, "terrorism is serious" or "terrorism is a joke"? You people like to call this flip-flopping. |
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May 18, 2008 12:37 AM GMT
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Vote for Obama. Vote for Hope and Change.
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May 18, 2008 12:53 AM GMT
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That's a serious offer, brother John. You need to relax and open up. I'll bet you've chewed your fingernails down to your knuckles worrying about all the bad things that are about to happen.
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May 18, 2008 1:10 AM GMT
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John43620 saidAl Qaeda and all the other enemies of the United States failed to attack us again after 9/11. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well john from what I understand Bush and his thugs did a little torture on a "TERRORIST" (who turned out to be mentally ill) then used that information from him to say that "INFORMATION GLEANED FROM OUR TOUGH INTERROGATION OF A "LEADING" TERRORIST SAVED US FROM ANOTHER ATTACK" well since then this mentally ill and tortured suspect, backed off what he told, and made the statement that what he told, he said to get the torture to stop. But of course john bush and company, nor FOX or CNN came out with the truth about bush claims to have saved us from another attack by his tough measures. You've ignored this fact too!!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You're all safe and sound, you can thank the Bush administration for that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I believe john that it was brown-nosing General Patreaus who upon being repeatedly pressed by congress for a response as to whether or not we are safer now as a result of this war, and his response was that "NO !!! I CANNOT SAY WE ARE SAFER" so "PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT" let it sink deep in john because many a general and middle eastern expert has said, this war has made us far worse off, bush policies have handed the terrorists a great gift of a recruiting bananza. middle eastern people came out in droves to join the fight against the western agressor.
You want change from that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I definately want change from bush failed policies that have the USA in the worst condition in any of our memories !!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Place your hopes that Al Qaeda will be lienient with us.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm placing my hopes in a democratic president who will use good foreign relations to stop giving the muslims and the rest of the world reason to hate us for bush "IMPERIALISTIC" neocon new american century bullshit goals.
Vote for Obama. Vote for Hope and Change.
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May 18, 2008 1:18 AM GMT
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Wow, I can just see it now. Iran opposes all foreign pressure, develops a nuclear weapon. Keeps this all secret from lots of prying eyes. Then manages to pull off a nuclear test, without any siezmic activity or other observation by the world community. The test is successful, a bomb is created. It's put on a truck, rolled into Isreal - the holy land - where it is detonated destroying the 'hated infidels'. Unfortunately it also makes the area uninhabitable for human life because of the radiation.
All the islamic fundamentalist who think of that land as holy as well, are soooo happy that there aren't infidels there, that they don't mind that they can't use the land now either.
All the non-Iran muslim states turn a blind eye to the act of decimation of the holy land and put their hands in their laps waiting for Christendom to strike back at Iran.
Iran wakes up after cheering the decimation of Isreal and realizes - oops - we didn't make enough bombs to keep the whole of civilization at bay.
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Really John, Iran can be counted on to do a couple of things - act in it's own self interest, and protect areas that are considered holy. - They may do gun fights and ground assult, but not nuclear destruction.
Even if they blew up a major city in Europe or US, there might be fewer lives lost then what has been lost in Iraq as a result of the war - and the US would still be plenty strong enough and well backed by allies in retribution. There would be very little left of Iran if it used nuclear weapons to strike as a terrorist.
See the thing that gives terrorists protection, is that they have no state. Nothing would limit and control terrorists more than to give them a piece of land and allow them to think they have the responsibility to defend it.
Iran is a state and therefore is not well served by terrorist activities on a large scale - but may find them useful as attrition tactics.
Honestly if we really wanted to, we could arrange to have a nuke 'lost' in Iraq - smuggled by Sunni's into Iran and blow up their capital city and make it look like a terrorist act by "Al Qaeda in Iraq". In the ensuing chaos, the United Nations moves into Iran to 'bring order'. Viola - the US is in charge - using a little terrorism of our own.
God help us. (I bet that very plan is on a scratch pad in Cheney's office)
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May 18, 2008 4:55 AM GMT
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OHhiker, you're so naive, have you had any military training? I'm reluctant to give you a more realistic scenario over a public forum, or a private one. Iran only needs a few to accomplish it's goals. Although I loath the leadership of Iran, they are intelligent, and absolutely mad. They have to prepare the way for the Mahdi.
The wise move for us is a crippling attack on Iranian infrastructure and their nuclear weapons production.
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May 18, 2008 5:13 AM GMT
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John43620 said
The wise move for us is a crippling attack on Iranian infrastructure and their nuclear weapons production.
The wise move for us is to impeach George Bush and Dick Cheney, beg the world's forgiveness for the shenanigans of the past 8 years, and then promise we'll never do anything that selfish and stupid again. |
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May 18, 2008 4:33 PM GMT
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cosmicjewboy said[quote][cite]John43620 said[/cite]
The wise move for us is a crippling attack on Iranian infrastructure and their nuclear weapons production.
The wise move for us is to impeach George Bush and Dick Cheney, beg the world's forgiveness for the shenanigans of the past 8 years, and then promise we'll never do anything that selfish and stupid again.[/quote] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RIGHT ON !!!!!comsmicjb>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John do you have some extra cash to help bushies afford another damn war? Do you have more kin in Kentucky that believes the bullshit you do that are willing to die to help complete the bushies neocon goals of dominance in the middle east? Perhaps you should work out more so your physically fit enough to join and lead the way for what few sheeples there are left ignorant enough to fall for another set of bush/cheney lies!!!! WARE IT OUT BUDDY !!! GO GET THEM BOOGIE MEN BEFORE THEY COME HERE WITH A NUKE !!!! HURRY MAN !!!!!! GET-ER-DONE !!!! WE ARE COUNTING ON THE LIKES OF YOU TO FIGHT BOOGERS !!!!! THEY ARE AROUND EVERY CORNER WAREING TURBINS !!! I'M SURE BUSH'S TORTURED WITNESSES CAN POINT THEM OUT FOR YOU !!! |
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May 18, 2008 5:00 PM GMT
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RealLifeDad, you can bury your head in the sand until the end of time, but that's not going to change the fact that there really are factions (and whole countries) out there that want to destroy America. That's not boogy man talk, it's reality. We simply have to be prepared and stay on the offensive. I'll err on the side of caution any day. I agree that we have to operate within international law and all that, but we can't be irresponsible and ignore the warnings either. Dangers lurk whether you want to believe that or not.
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May 18, 2008 5:32 PM GMT
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CuriousJockAZ saidRealLifeDad, you can bury your head in the sand until the end of time, ... but we can't be irresponsible and ignore the warnings either. Dangers lurk whether you want to believe that or not. The question here is about reasonable balance. We must be prepared and stay on top of intelligence. Because of 9/11 differing and changing tactics must be employed. But individual freedoms are also extremely important, its what this country is about. The result should be changes, enough to keep us safe and protect our freedoms. What we've seen with Bush isn't balance, its overkill. There are things this President has done (himself...nobody else) that has been detrimental, both to the public domestically and our standing in the world. |
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May 18, 2008 5:38 PM GMT
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CuriousJockAZ saidRealLifeDad, you can bury your head in the sand until the end of time, but that's not going to change the fact that there really are factions (and whole countries) out there that want to destroy America. That's not boogy man talk, it's reality. We simply have to be prepared and stay on the offensive. I'll err on the side of caution any day. I agree that we have to operate within international law and all that, but we can't be irresponsible and ignore the warnings either. Dangers lurk whether you want to believe that or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"DANGERS LURK" because the USA through the CIA, and many a failed policy of interferring in other country's business, thereby, fucking up the middle east for "OUR INTERESTS SAKE", which has rightfully brought about blowback. Its high time we get a grip on reality and do some face to face foreign relations of the kind that leaves them alone to rule as they see fit, and spend our money on perfecting technology to get off their oil. While we are at it we need to quit coddling Israels misstreatment of the Gazans, Cut off their US welfare if they don't go back to aggreed upon boarders. When this happens and only then will we see a diminishing Talaban, Hezbollah and Al Quida, Bush is making up BOOGGIE MEN for the sake of his Neocon control freak goals, if Gore had been in we would have been much much safer. GUNS AND BOMBS WILL NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM !!!! ONLY BETTER FOREIGN RELATIONS (talking/negotiating)WILL WORK, and its not "APPEASEMENT" !!!! Bye the way !!! Do you have extra money to help bushies broaden this war to Iran? NO !!!! I didn't think so !!! neither does our country !!! |
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May 18, 2008 6:47 PM GMT
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Someone please tell me how I can refer Bush and Cheney to the Hague to be tried for Crimes against Humanity! I don't understand why someone or some group has not, or will not do it. I guess I know the answer but still want it done.
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May 20, 2008 3:03 AM GMT
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John43620 saidOHhiker, you're so naive, have you had any military training? I'm reluctant to give you a more realistic scenario over a public forum, or a private one. Iran only needs a few to accomplish it's goals. Although I loath the leadership of Iran, they are intelligent, and absolutely mad. They have to prepare the way for the Mahdi.
The wise move for us is a crippling attack on Iranian infrastructure and their nuclear weapons production. You remind me of this guy around your age I used to argue with on another site. His views were the right ones and anyone who dare saw other was dumb naive and the like. Seems your the one who's all these if you won't listen to reason. Ask yourself a few things before blindly following someone (sounds like what some people did when they joined up with Al-Qaeda and the like) 1. Why are they doing this, meaning both parties involved. 2. Is what both parties doing the only solution and if not can you voice a concern that they would consider? If not then you needn't bother with them, cause no sane person would willingly sign up with people who would kill innocent people without....any...reason....hmmm? 3. I'd say what the third is but I'm guessing I should stop cause you've...nevermind. Sorry I brought it up. Please continue to call names and sling shit at people for no real reason, it's quite....amusing... |
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May 20, 2008 4:55 AM GMT
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John43620 saidOHhiker, you're so naive, have you had any military training? I'm reluctant to give you a more realistic scenario over a public forum, or a private one. Iran only needs a few to accomplish it's goals. Although I loath the leadership of Iran, they are intelligent, and absolutely mad. They have to prepare the way for the Mahdi.
The wise move for us is a crippling attack on Iranian infrastructure and their nuclear weapons production.
Why stop there? Any country can go rogue, how many "states" should we invade? Do we occupy them forever, or keep hitting their infrastructure to keep them in the dark ages? Perhaps we should begin to think bigger, why stop at strategic military strikes? How about taking over as many of these counties as we can before they potentially attack us. If the world objects, threaten the rest of the world with nuclear annihilation if they oppose our domination! Get a clue! From a war vet |
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May 20, 2008 5:13 AM GMT
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Oh realifedad, why did you free john43620 from his cage!
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May 20, 2008 5:13 PM GMT
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OK, Here's how the terrorists can win.
Hizbollah smuggle three small nuclear weapons into the United States. These three nukes are only as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb because by today's standards of technology are easy to make. These three nukes are placed in three cities, say, Atlanta, Cleveland and Seattle. (This is hypothetical)
Out of the blue, one day while we don't expect it, one goes off in Cleveland. It's horrible, the devastation is massive. The news media are all over it, just like the terrorist want. A day later Hezbollah sends a tape to CBS stating that they have one of two equal sized nuclear devices in every major city in the US.
If we surrender to the Iranian revolutionary guard and end our constitutional democracy and convert to shia islam we will be spared.
Of course we don't believe them and vow to fight for our freedom and our way of life. We don't retaliate for fear of all the rest of the nukes being set off in all our cities. Then Atlanta explodes. The ultimatum is again given with a time limit. There is widespread panic. Americans are now turning against one another to turn America over to Iran or to stay free. The time limit is passed and Seattle goes up. The last ultimatum is given.
Americans fall all over one another to surrender to Hizbullah. Hizbullah is out of ammo but we don't know that. We think there are nukes in every city in the US. So we agree to surrender and adopt sharia and scrap the constitution.
The Iranian revolutionary guard fly over in passenger jets and take up positions in our government, police and military and make us all good shia muslims. Those of us who're openly gay, well, we get the gallows.
It would be ludicrous for Iran to completely destroy America because we have so many resources. They would be better off securing these resources for themselves.
Nuclear Blackmail can be very persuasive.
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May 20, 2008 5:18 PM GMT
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Ok, so why do you have to pick on Seattle? Haven't we had enough problems this year with our long winter? It's just now becoming spring and it's pretty. Pick on some other place in red state.
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May 20, 2008 5:37 PM GMT
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John43620 saidAl Qaeda and all the other enemies of the United States failed to attack us again after 9/11. You're all safe and sound, you can thank the Bush administration for that.
You want change from that? Place your hopes that Al Qaeda will be lienient with us.
Vote for Obama. Vote for Hope and Change.
I doubt 9/11 would have happened it someone other then bush had been in office but then that is just speculation as is your train of thought that bush's policies actual protect you. Bush only got to declare war on Iraq because of a loophole in which daddy bush never closed off the Persian Gulf War. Had that been closed then jr would have had to go to congress. Jr just wanted to finish what daddy started and couldn't finish. I also don't believe Jr is intelligent enough to have orchestrated all this and there has to be someone pulling strings behind the curtains. |
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May 20, 2008 5:46 PM GMT
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John43620 saidOK, Here's how the terrorists can win.
Nuclear Blackmail can be very persuasive. Plain and simple it would never happen and wont work. First security is to tight to bring any dirty bombs in. They would have to have them in the country to begin with. Secondly a better plan that fits into their line of thinking is to kill our economy. All it will take is a few massive EMP attacks couple with shooting down some satellites and look dead economy because we rely to much on electronics. |
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May 20, 2008 5:57 PM GMT
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May 20, 2008 6:07 PM GMT
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Realifedad- thanks for bring this to my attention.
I have NORMAL friends in IRAN. The majority of citizens are hard working, well educated people who are just trying to meet their basic hunan needs each day.
The citizens are so oppressed in IRAN and have been asking for help from the WORLD - (hint hint - U.N.) for generations - they are tired of violence and war.
The citizens have no freedom to visit other countries as their 'government' fears they will not return to Iran after a vacation. This policy is strongly imposed on young Iranians(to deny visas) in fear that they will leave forever to start a life of freedom somewhere else in the world.
Not to mention that being GAY is punishable by death!
So hats off to the Iranian people(especially our gay brothers and sisters) who somehow - continue to be optimistic about a HELP arriving soon, from other world leaders!
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May 20, 2008 7:09 PM GMT
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Tony, Mahmoud Ahmadinijad is getting pretty tight with Hugo Chavez. Our southern border is pourous. Our security isn't so tight, even now after 9/11. If illegal aliens can penetrate it, so can terrorists. Speaking of 9/11, who'd a thought that would happen?
The Russians and Chinese have the technology to generate a massive Electro Magnetic Pulse and shoot down sattelites. I don't think Iran does right now, unless they cause one with a nuclear detonation.
Penguin, I know Iran has normal decent people, but so did Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.
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May 20, 2008 8:15 PM GMT
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Hey John43620: I agree with you - BUT I hope as a world society we have learned from the past, that intervention does not have to be with bombs that ALWAYS kill those that need the help the most! This forum in itself is also away to keep people informed about what other gay men are going through around the world. - Cheers  |
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May 20, 2008 8:38 PM GMT
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John43620 saidTony, Mahmoud Ahmadinijad is getting pretty tight with Hugo Chavez. Our southern border is pourous. Our security isn't so tight, even now after 9/11. If illegal aliens can penetrate it, so can terrorists. Speaking of 9/11, who'd a thought that would happen?
The Russians and Chinese have the technology to generate a massive Electro Magnetic Pulse and shoot down sattelites. I don't think Iran does right now, unless they cause one with a nuclear detonation.
Penguin, I know Iran has normal decent people, but so did Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.
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May 20, 2008 10:06 PM GMT
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XRuggerATX, I had no idea you were a smurf. I always thought you were just a regular guy.
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May 20, 2008 10:37 PM GMT
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Well your paranoid rantings have me feeling kind of helpless, scared and smurfy sometimes. I know you think that's a good thing but it nearly ruined our country and plays right into Gargom...erm...bin Laden's hands.
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