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[quote][cite]Just a few..wierdo's[/quote]

WOW a few is a flock when it comes to weirdos!

OMG...if I could reach through my screen and strangle that woman in the coffee shop...

Being Muslim = not being born in America? WTF?!?! Some people just need to go back to their caves and not come out again.

I guess I can't feel TOO bad about being from ultra-conservative Nebraska, Obama did win Nebraska and other Plains states.

ShawnTO saidOMG...if I could reach through my screen and strangle that woman in the coffee shop...

Being Muslim = not being born in America? WTF?!?! Some people just need to go back to their caves and not come out again.

If they're not Obama fans, maybe they won't vote. He seemed to bring out the new voters out of all the candidates.

ShawnTO saidOMG...if I could reach through my screen and strangle that woman in the coffee shop...

Being Muslim = not being born in America? WTF?!?! Some people just need to go back to their caves and not come out again.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YOU GOT THAT RIGHT !!!!! You guys haven't seen nothing yet !!!! Welcome to midsouth ignorance "APPALACHIAN MOUNTAIN REGION" style !!! Some of these people are convinced that Obama is muslim, and hellbent on making the USA muslim along with him. One older man told me recently that we better all have guns because if Obama gets in the Muslims will take over, and we'll all have to defend ourselves and our property. HOW'S THAT FOR IGNORANCE ?????? We liberals here in this region need your "PRAYERS" !!!!! LOL !!!! ITS ENOUGH TO MAKE A NON-BELIEVER GET CALLOUSES ON HIS KNEES !!! HA

I like how they couldn't come right out and say, We won't vote for a black man for Pres. But you could see it their cautious expressions when Obama is mentioned.

Jon Stewart had some priceless clips this week. Highlighted objections to Obama from West Virgina citizens:

"He's another race."

"He's Muslim."

"I've had enough of Husseins. No more of this Hussein business."

Just thought the rest of the world should know more about who's electing our leaders here in the US of A.

As someone who grew up in Appalachia - lived on our family farm down in the holler a few miles past the whites only country club, went to college in WV - I can tell you that everyone in that part of the world isn't that stupid. However, many tend to exist only in their little isolated universe of Sunday church, work week, Friday night lights, and Saturday drinking. Obama's previous comments about clinging are actually very correct. This was just re-affirmed for me at my youngest brother's wedding, for which I revisited the home area and a large number of these Appalachian people. They really do believe Obama is Muslim...because they got an email about it and because that is what was reported on Fox News! (How they all have flocked to Fox I'll never get...I assume it's the all white, lots of blondes with boobs casting on that channel.) But Muslim is a slight of hand - they really aren't going to vote for him because he's black.

It's sad. My sister and I were discussing this after the wedding. We wonder if the internet will change things, as it inevitably exposes young people to the world beyond their window and their high school. We see some progress in our younger cousins, a large number of whom are either entering college or getting married it seems. Nonetheless, many of them parrot the fallacies spewed like psychic toxins by their elders, who really do live in 'ignorant bliss' and will rationalize any and everything to maintain their status quo...so long as that status involves the right SUV, a winning team, etc etc.

Perhaps I sound haughtily judgmental...but then I grew up around these people and for some reason - probably because I was gay and innately knew I'd have to escape the crazy - I evolved out of their quagmire.

It's so sad. I just hope the continued expansion of open info will improve the group think in that area.

This really does not surprise me at all. There are a lot of people that still look at the surface and have a different view of the world where race and religion are concerned. Many people on this site have a "race is not an issue" perspective. I think that's great, but its not the reality for many people in this country. There are many people who won't vote for a black man or for a woman for that matter. As a nation we are light years behind where we assume we are. Take a drive through part of the country. Race is a huge motivator. But there is also reverse racism. There are people that will vote for Obama solely because of his race. That is just as uneducated (read uninformed) as not voting for him because of his race. For many people it is ignorance, some have reason to feel the way they do about race and some just were raised to think that way and live in areas where you don't have a differencing point of view.

I have many friends who have certain views about race and religion that I don't agree with. I have my own view that some don't agree with. There is no broad stroke that says we all have to accept each other. We are able to dislike and be prejudiced against others, regardless of how irrational it may seem.

In regards to religion, I blame the current administration for raising intolerance of Muslims. The Bush administration has launched an domestic campaign that has caused an baseless hatred of Muslims. This is especially dangerous since most Americans do not know one thing about Islam and have little to no integration with Muslims, who might change or add a personal perspective to their irrational opinions. But again this is religion. And America is one of the most religiously influenced and fanatical nations in the world. We have to look at history. It was only recently that a Jew was seeking office. And think back when Kennedy was president, many people were worried about his Catholicism.

People fear what they do not understand and there is no other reinforcement from the powers that be that would do anything to make an effort to help expose and educate the general public in any other way.

Jesus Christ, this is depressing. I can't believe what I am hearing from these people. They are so uninformed. No wonder Hilary has the support of uneducated Americas. Not to mention the racist.

And just like XRuggerATX, I was watching The Daily Show and the reasons these people gave for not voting for Obama really makes you wonder.

Racists are not so much Hillary supporters as they are, well, racists that won't allow a black man to tell whites what to do. These folks weren't going to vote for Hillary over McCain anyway. Racists also tend to be sexists AND Republicans.

I have a cousin back in Ironton, Ohio, who is a staunch, down the ticket Democrat who has no intention of voting for Obama because he believes he's a Muslim infiltrator. This cousin is college educated, non-religious, middle class, etc. We had an intense...debate about the Obama Muslim situation and he refused to budge. I realized that in all likelihood he was using Muslim as a cover for black, which sickened me even more.

DOG WHISLTE ALERT


I will be supporting Obama this fall, because a Republican vote for me is unthinkable, but does it bother no Democrat that we, arguably the most anti-Muslin nation on Earth outside of Israel, are about to nominate a black man named Barack Hussein Obama for the Presidency? Oh, and we're all pretty racist too.

People in this country are as a rule inattentive and ignorant about almost everything (we do know, however, when Britney's next album is coming out and how long Lindsay has left in rehab).

The most cursory glance at rural America (such as the poster's video) should be very revealing about the nature of the uninformed American electorate. WV is no cultural anomoly, you know. It represents a lot of things that we, the intelligentsia, don't want to think too hard about. It's all well and good for us to sit in our coastal cities shaking our heads about the attitudes displayed in that video clip, but here's the thing - there are far more of them than there are of us, and I'm afraid we are in serious trouble come November.

Let's just hope that digust with the (p)Resident outweighs the very real racism and anti-Muslim sentiment that is soooo pervasive in the US.

jarhead5536 saidDOG WHISLTE ALERT


I will be supporting Obama this fall, because a Republican vote for me is unthinkable, ....

I think I bruised my head when I fainted after reading that.

These people are worried about a Muslim takeover?
That's what the checks and balance system in the constitution is all about. So one man can't get in and single handedly take over the government. Although i guess he could run over the constitution like W and just add a signing statement that this law covers everybody but me.

And now, folks, you know why Virginia does a happy dance that those counties split off from the state. Whew, to think we might have gotten stuck with them.

Next is to figure out how to get northern Virginia away from the rest of the state and I will be a very happy boy!

FREE NORTHERN VIRGINIA ...

Well it's like the old saying goes, "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." Bush's reelection was the second fooling.


Now with this racist sentiment, what is it called if we get fooled thrice?




...I know! Damn me forever!



And Tracy, my dear, the reason why you won't vote for Obama is because YOU'RE A RACIST!!!


We need Obama as President, not just for change, but to sever the racist generations from the latest generation who will be impressed by Obama's abilities to lead a nation to a better condition. Racism is chronic.

What's the big deal Obama Muslim ok you will all look sexy in Multicoloured headscarfs?

So, it's interesting that some of those lifelong Democrats will shift to the Republican party, possibly forever, thus increasing the racist ranks of the GOP, which will make it even harder for the GOP leadership to shake that stereotype.

Once again I find myself wishing that a giant asteroid would just hit the planet and obliterate it all.

Clearly their beliefs and convictions as racists far outweigh their beliefs and convictions for what would be best for the country.

These people are basically saying, "I'm a staunch Democrat, ...unless he's black." Seriously, are they hearing what is coming out of their own mouths?

Because John "100 years in Iraq" McCain is NOT the better option. But I digress.

This is why it is so imperative that we get off our collectively well-muscled gay asses and vote, folks. At the very least we need to cancel out the votes of the above Appalachia-tards.

I'm addicted to CNN and now that I'm not working, I have the tv on CNN most of the day. I've been following the primaries (I'm finally understanding your bizarrely complicated voting process), listening to the candidates, the political analysts, the government officials touting the glories of their favoured candidate, etc. etc. If I were an American citizen, I would vote for Hillary in the primaries (and the general, obviously). If it came down to Obama and McCain, I would have serious reservations about voting for Obama. Not because he's black, not because of the Muslim rumours, but because I feel he will make a good president...someday. I don't know if he's ready to deal with the mess Bush has left your country with over the past 8 years.

But to listen to these people...my gods...how sad. In defense of West Virginians though, I'm confident they're not all like that, and I wonder how many people they had to interview to get those few provocative sound bites.

West Virginia: One Big Happy Family ... Really!

Q. How do you know the toothbrush was invented in West Virginia?

A. If it was invented anywhere else, it would have been called a teethbrush.


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West Virginia State Residency Application

Name: ________________(Check appropriate box)
(_) Billy-Bob
(_) Billy-Joe
(_) Billy-Ray
(_) Billy-Sue
(_) Billy-Mae
(_) Billy-Jack

Age: ____
Sex: ____ M _____ F _____ N/A
Shoe Size: ____ Left ____ Right

CB Handle: _____________________

Occupation:
(_)Farmer
(_)Mechanic
(_)Hair Dresser
(_)Un-employed
(_)Coal Miner

Spouse's Name: __________________________

Relationship with spouse:
(_) Sister
(_) Brother
(_) Aunt
(_) Uncle
(_) Cousin
(_) Mother
(_) Father
(_) Son
(_) Daughter
(_) Pet

Number of children living in household: ___

Number that are yours: ___

Mother's Name: _______________________

Father's Name: _______________________
(If not sure, leave blank)

Education: 1 2 3 4 (Circle highest grade completed)

Do you (_)own or (_)rent your mobile home?
(Check appropriate box)

___ Total number of vehicles you own
___ Number of vehicles that still crank
___ Number of vehicles in front yard
___ Number of vehicles in back yard
___ Number of vehicles on cement blocks

___ Number of refrigerators on front porch

Firearms you own and where you keep them:
____ truck
____ bedroom
____ bathroom
____ kitchen
____ shed

Model and year of your pickup: _____________ 194__
Number of empty beer cans on floorboard or in bed of
pickup: _________

Newspapers/magazines you subscribe to:
(_)The National Enquirer
(_)The Globe
(_)TV Guide
(_)Soap Opera Digest
(_)Gun World

___ Number of times you've seen a UFO
___ Number of times you've seen Elvis
___ Number of times you've seen Elvis in a UFO

How often do you bathe:
(_)Weekly
(_)Monthly
(_)Holidays
(_)Not Applicable

Color of teeth:
(_)Yellow
(_)Brownish-Yellow
(_)Brown
(_)Black
(_)No teeth
(_)N/A

Brand of chewing tobacco you prefer:
(_)Red-Man

How far is your home from a paved road?
(_)1 mile
(_)2 miles
(_)don't know
(_)can't get there from here

BUMPER STICKERS:
___ Eat more Possum
___ My other car is a piece of junk too
___ Honk if you love Jesus
___ If you ain't a cowboy, you ain't nothin'
___ Red-man Chewing Tobacco

Favorite Recreation: Check all that apply:
___ Square Dancin'
___ Possum Huntin'
___ Skinny Dippin'
___ Craw Daddin'
___ Gospel Singin'
___ 4-Wheelin'
___ Drankin'
___ Spittin' Backy ___ Bill Chip Trowin'
___ Honky Tonkin'
___ Noodlin'

# of Dogs: ___ Type: ___ Blue Tick ___ Beagle
___ Black & Tan ___ Bird Dawg

Cap Emblem: ___ John Deere ___ McCulloch Chain Saws
___ Budweiser ___ Vo-Tech
___ Skoal ___ Coors
___ NAPA ___ Smile if you're Not Wearing Underwear


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Caslon !!!!LOL !!!! OOOOOOOPS !!! you forgot one major subject !!!!! (REDMAN-tobacco barely touched it) !>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What age did you start chewing tobacco ___age4 or___age5?, and What is the distance you can spit your tobacco juice from between the gap in your front teeth ____10feet or ____12feet? PLEASE NOTE=(feet=12 inches, not the length of your right or left foot, since they can be different lengths depending on which foot is on the upside when walking the ridge to your cabin)

Ok, so I've finally had the chance to view the vid (can't do it at work since youtube is blocked) and OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!

Are you kidding me?!? Don't know enough about him? Got internet? What the FUCK?!?

I'm reminded of a line from Monique in Soul Plane, "I ain't slapped a bitch in 2 weeks. Yeah, I gotta whole lotta strength in the slap-a-bitch arm."

Breathe! Center! Ok, I'm fine.

Thank you for quoting Soul Plane. That flick should have won an Academy Award. You made my day. :-)

Hmmm. Being from Kentucky, I wasn't surprised by those people. Weirdos, try ignorant. Like at work the other day we was having a discussion. I just sit back and listen to what comes next. "He will have to have extra security" " I just don't know, ya know if he gets in there you'll have them (blacks) acting like they are running things" ? Then my friend who refuses to admit that race plays/has played a part in the election.
I would bet all of those people would swear up and down they don't have a problem with blacks. I still hear people use the word "colored". This video is the tip of an iceberg of alot of people who share the same beliefs.

Wow.

After watching that, I don't feel so embarassed to be from Wisconsin.

XRuggerATX saidThank you for quoting Soul Plane. That flick should have won an Academy Award. You made my day. :-)

From your hands to God's eyes... I'm watching it now.

A good president, in my book, would be one who is first and foremost a listener to the people, one who has a good moral foundation (not necessarily religious), and who is willing to make the right decision for the greater good and for those who need help the most.

Experience, something that some candidates are touting to compensate for their lack of any of the three aforementioned criteria, comes a distant secondary concern for me because there are such things as a Vice-President, a Cabinet, and various other advisers to help with that. There will be plenty of advice given to whoever the president is, but it will be up to the president to make the final decision, and therein lies the importance of being able to make the decision in such a manner mentioned before.

I fail to see how someone's ethnicity -- and even more general with someone's skin color -- can be a meaningful criteria for being president.

I am reminded by an episode of House, where a black senator running for president tells House that "it isn't called the White House just because of the paint" or something along those lines.

DJBens77 saidThis really does not surprise me at all. There are a lot of people that still look at the surface and have a different view of the world where race and religion are concerned. Many people on this site have a "race is not an issue" perspective. I think that's great, but its not the reality for many people in this country. There are many people who won't vote for a black man or for a woman for that matter. As a nation we are light years behind where we assume we are. Take a drive through part of the country. Race is a huge motivator. But there is also reverse racism. There are people that will vote for Obama solely because of his race. That is just as uneducated (read uninformed) as not voting for him because of his race. For many people it is ignorance, some have reason to feel the way they do about race and some just were raised to think that way and live in areas where you don't have a differencing point of view.

I have many friends who have certain views about race and religion that I don't agree with. I have my own view that some don't agree with. There is no broad stroke that says we all have to accept each other. We are able to dislike and be prejudiced against others, regardless of how irrational it may seem.

In regards to religion, I blame the current administration for raising intolerance of Muslims. The Bush administration has launched an domestic campaign that has caused an baseless hatred of Muslims. This is especially dangerous since most Americans do not know one thing about Islam and have little to no integration with Muslims, who might change or add a personal perspective to their irrational opinions. But again this is religion. And America is one of the most religiously influenced and fanatical nations in the world. We have to look at history. It was only recently that a Jew was seeking office. And think back when Kennedy was president, many people were worried about his Catholicism.

People fear what they do not understand and there is no other reinforcement from the powers that be that would do anything to make an effort to help expose and educate the general public in any other way.

yeah...I don't agree with what is bolded (and I know you are not asking me to agree). With that paragraph you are giving people a free pass to maintain and even build upon an ideology predicated on hate. Why not challenge people to question their beliefs? Hmmmm...and this expression of opinion, regardeless of the fact that it may be the reality for some, is the exact reason why social progress is as slow as it is.

I personally think allowing this thought process to be part of a (your) belief system is wreckless....but that is just me

ShawnTO saidI'm addicted to CNN and now that I'm not working, I have the tv on CNN most of the day. I've been following the primaries (I'm finally understanding your bizarrely complicated voting process), listening to the candidates, the political analysts, the government officials touting the glories of their favoured candidate, etc. etc. If I were an American citizen, I would vote for Hillary in the primaries (and the general, obviously). If it came down to Obama and McCain, I would have serious reservations about voting for Obama. Not because he's black, not because of the Muslim rumours, but because I feel he will make a good president...someday. I don't know if he's ready to deal with the mess Bush has left your country with over the past 8 years.

But to listen to these people...my gods...how sad. In defense of West Virginians though, I'm confident they're not all like that, and I wonder how many people they had to interview to get those few provocative sound bites.

hahaha...yeah they are...no j/k...However, WV is a traditional blue collar state

jarhead5536 saidRacists are not so much Hillary supporters as they are, well, racists that won't allow a black man to tell whites what to do. These folks weren't going to vote for Hillary over McCain anyway. Racists also tend to be sexists AND Republicans.

In the south lots of conservatives are Democrat, for reasons dating back to the Civil War and Reconstruction.