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A lot of things are being told about what is going to happen in 2012. This year is told by the old Mayas, a civilization of Mexico, as the end of an era. They had a calendar, made more than 5000 years ago, and it ends exactly in December 21st, 2012. There are books, websites, movies and documentaries about. Have you ever heard about it? What is your idea of what is going to happen?

quarko hear it was in April 2012 might not put my mortgage payment in early LOL

I know that something special happens in the X-Files Universe in 2012 :-)

I imagine that at the very stroke of midnight on December 21, 2012....


it will become December 22.

I may write a book.

I have read somewhere, or a friend told me, that 2012 is a significantmilestone during the transition from the Age of Pisces before the full flowering of the Age of Aquarius (I guess people are 'undecidedd' as to when exactly the new age is supposed to actually begin - some people have stated that it began as early as 1977 - others say it won't be here until 2050).

I have a good friend who is very into all that stuff, but I have to admit I am not really very interested.

As far as the 'REAL' significance of the year 2012:

Don't quote me , but IMO, the year 2012 is extremely significant because it will occur immediately following the very last moment of the year 2011, and prior to the first minutes of the year 2013.

Actually something historic will happen on the winter solstice of 2012 at 11:00am Greenwich mean time; our solar system will migrate to the other side of the equator of the Milky Way galaxy. The earth and our solar system has never been there. That's all. Just think of it, we will probably be here for it.

I saw it on television, and then checked it on the internet. I think it's really cool.

Maybe we should have a huge gay naked party in Australia for the event. We have over four years to prepare.

In the year 2012, a momentous occasion will indeed occur! I will be exactly half as old as my dearest friend will be! She will be 56, and I will be 28! Weird!

I remember learning about that in AP Spanish and it creeped everyone out. I also remember that the Mayans had predicted everything else correctly to the date - including the fall of their own empire.

I had a client once who would not invest anything unless the Mayan calendar showed that the date was propitious.

He wound up in a mental hospital, talking to unseen friends.

Fitting.

I hope your client is ok now!

I've heard that the polar axis will shift, causing massive chaos in our technologies and the laws of physics as we know it. Perhaps the end as we know it?

The Mayan Calender yes! Well let's see what happens maybe we will all go up in smoke?

And don't forget Nostradamus?


Maybe the sky will turn "Fuchsia" eh Caslon?

"approximately every 2,160 years (i.e. 1/12th of 25,920 years), the Precession of the Equinoxes appears to rotate the spring equinox from one constellation to another. Currently, we appear to be at the end of the Age of Pisces, and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius (hence the song from the musical and movie, Hair, “This is the coming of the Age of Aquarius...”). Note that the ages progress in retrograde motion, going in the opposite direction as the sun, which moves from Aquarius into Pisces into Aries, and so forth. By this reckoning, the Age of Aries lasted from approximately 2400 B.C.E. to 200 B.C.E. -- essentially the span of time of ancient Egypt."
http://www.halexandria.org/dward207.htm

"The Age of Aquarius simply means that we are leaving the age of Pisces and entering into the Age of Aquarius. This change in the Age happens every two thousand years - the last one coincided with the arrival of Christ. Alternative medicine, astrology, vegetarianism and other subjects previously considered weird are growing rapidly in popularity, and are all subjects associated with the sign of Aquarius."
http://www.ka-gold-jewelry.com/p-articles/age-of-aquarius.php

I LOVE THIS STUFF!

John43620 saidMaybe we should have a huge gay naked party in Australia for the event. We have over four years to prepare.

John, for the first time you and I 100% agree.

The Mayan calender isn't always correct. It was predicted several years ago by their calender that the area of the United States that we identify as the state of California and the state of New York were areas of land that were predicted to fall into the ocean. According to the Mayan calender, this was to happen already but never did. So now I doubt the Mayan calender and it's accuracy.

Interestingly, those two states share a sister fault line so theoretically something could have happened to affect both of those areas simultaneously.

Even though the Mayan calender ends on that day it could just be coincidence. Just like a woodworker who spends his life working on projects. Whether he works with a team or by himself, there will come a time when he/they will reach a point where they can't work anymore. They'll eventually die off, or they get too old, etc. They can't keep going forever. There will come a time when they will stop and whatever it is they were working on or just finished will be scrutinized because that's human nature. Just like what people are doing with the Mayan calender. The calender simply ends. Now you have religious zealots implying what the cessation of the calender could mean.
Food for thought: If they were so spectacularly psychic why didn't they insert on the calender that the concept of time was going to end or that the world ends? Or that something HUGE was going to happen to affect mankind.
I think they simply reached a point of completion on the winter solstice of the year 2012 and for whatever reason never got back to continuing. Let's face it, the calender covers a time span of more than 5,000 years. Carving in stone is a hell of a lot harder than writing on paper. Who knows, maybe they got carpal tunnel from all that chiseling and needed a serious break.

jprichva saidI imagine that at the very stroke of midnight on December 21, 2012....


it will become December 22.

I may write a book.

And it will be an international bestseller and will be made into a blockbuster movie starring Tom Cruise and the Backstreet Boys.

I will be 22 in 2012!

"Of course, we'll all have flying cars, and wear silver jumpsuits, and no one will talk anymore 'cause we'll be able to read each other's minds... but the truth is, not much will change from 2008."

Look Zim, I imatated Sandra Bullock! Lol!

Yea, if you youtube search Mayan Doomsday Prophecy, you can watch all about it.. it's 5 parts though. Quite interesting, though.. check it out!

MunchingZombie said[quote][cite]John43620 said[/cite]Maybe we should have a huge gay naked party in Australia for the event. We have over four years to prepare.

John, for the first time you and I 100% agree. [/quote]

I am shy , but maybe for this kind of event I could overcome my bashfulness. Imagining all the RJ guys in their birthday suits is getting me all distracted (I need to have a cold shower)!

Nostradamus also said the world would end in 2012... do i believe it? hell no. think about it like this. the mayans sacrificed themselves to the sun god and filed their teeth to point, and Nostradamus was a nut bag. don't worry about it people. the only thing we should worry about is people taking this seriously and going crazy. lata peeps

Just remember, according to the documentation on this subject, the moment of truth happens at 11am on December 21st 2012. It's not going to happen at the stroke of midnight on that date.

not to mention... the man who made the calendar that we use today made it 6 years ahead by accident. so technically speaking, the REAL 2012 has already passed. peace.

ams516 saidNostradamus also said the world would end in 2012... do i believe it? hell no. think about it like this. the mayans sacrificed themselves to the sun god and filed their teeth to point, and Nostradamus was a nut bag. don't worry about it people. the only thing we should worry about is people taking this seriously and going crazy. lata peeps

They also strapped wooden boards to their head and suspended a little bead between their kids eyes so the ended up flat-forheaded and cross-eyed.

They DID have a very elaborate knowledge of physics, astronomy and geometry (moreson than anyone else in the world at the time), as well as a calendar system more exact than our own.

The calendar just simply ends and a new one starts.

No END OF THE WORLD will happen, at least not from them, IMO.

and the 12/12/2012 is based on their lunar calendar, not our gregorian, and the two do not really interchange.

atlnvmasc said[quote][cite]ams516 said[/cite]Nostradamus also said the world would end in 2012... do i believe it? hell no. think about it like this. the mayans sacrificed themselves to the sun god and filed their teeth to point, and Nostradamus was a nut bag. don't worry about it people. the only thing we should worry about is people taking this seriously and going crazy. lata peeps

They also strapped wooden boards to their head and suspended a little bead between their kids eyes so the ended up flat-forheaded and cross-eyed.

They DID have a very elaborate knowledge of physics, astronomy and geometry (moreson than anyone else in the world at the time), as well as a calendar system more exact than our own.

The calendar just simply ends and a new one starts.

No END OF THE WORLD will happen, at least not from them, IMO.

and the 12/12/2012 is based on their lunar calendar, not our gregorian, and the two do not really interchange.[/quote]

Yeah. Just because the mayans were 'savages' didn't mean they didn't have the most sophisticated knowledge of chronology and astronomy of their time. Also I read something somewhere about how the steps of their pyramids were related to their calendar. (I dunno, might be 365 steps or something, heh). Also they had different names for each day of the year I think.

muchmorethanmuscle saidJust remember, according to the documentation on this subject, the moment of truth happens at 11am on December 21st 2012. It's not going to happen at the stroke of midnight on that date.

I heard it was 11:11 am on 12/21/12. Does anyone have the seconds down because when the time approaches I want to be doing my favourite thing and sometimes timing is crucial??? Oh and John, Australia would work for me.

coolarmydude said; "I've heard that the polar axis will shift, causing massive chaos in our technologies and the laws of physics as we know it. Perhaps the end as we know it?"

Funny thing you should say that. I had business at the University of Toledo and while I was there chatted with a professor of physics and asked him about that.
He said the process would be rather slow and take many lifetimes, so we have nothing to worry about. In the future however, San Francisco will probably be at the north pole.

John43620 saidActually something historic will happen on the winter solstice of 2012 at 11:00am Greenwich mean time; our solar system will migrate to the other side of the equator of the Milky Way galaxy. The earth and our solar system has never been there. That's all. Just think of it, we will probably be here for it.

I saw it on television, and then checked it on the internet. I think it's really cool.

This might actually have a lot to do with ehy the calendar just ends, they based 5,000 years on the position of the stars. If we enter a new area of the galaxy, then there will be new stars and new constellations and a new north star. All they did was map out the Age of Pisces. I don't believe that they "predicted" anything, they just "projected" the alignment of the earth and stars according to the relitive postions as they saw them.

These are the same people that failed to develop a wheel...

MunchingZombie saidThese are the same people that failed to develop a wheel...

To be fair, they also didn't have large land animals that would have made a wheel terribly useful.

Did anyone else ever think up that the man who created the calender on that big stone circle was asked why does it end at 2012? and he went...... uhhhh.....uhhh cuz its the end of the world!...... or is it that he just ran out of room.

Let me get all Jacob Bronowski on this. I don't know much of anything about Mayan civilization or their calendar which spells with certainty our impending doom, so feel free to ignore me. But, a lack of a wheel coupled with a calendar that isn't based on lunar cycles and thus a linear world view. And those linear worlds have to explode in flames eventually.

ItsMyLife saidDid anyone else ever think up that the man who created the calender on that big stone circle was asked why does it end at 2012? and he went...... uhhhh.....uhhh cuz its the end of the world!...... or is it that he just ran out of room.

Actually we have a recorded account of him quitting his carving job because he wasn't getting enough benefits. He got hired by the Incas.

Bureaucrats glossed it over by simply saying that the part where the carver left off was the end of times. I mean, who would care right?

Let's see, in Decmeber 2012 I'll be . . . 53.

I suspect I'll still be waking up when the alarm goes off, heading to work, and continuing to find a measure of satisfaction here and there.

If the world DOES end, does that mean pain and suffering and worry and everything else I could do well without will all go away? Forever and ever?

I doubt it.

I think what commonly is happening involves us selecting an arbitrary 'box' (the year 2012) and then choosing the right 'pieces' that fit into the box (certain historical events that fit into the box). Rather, we should be looking at the pieces and drawing our conclusions from that direction. I remember during the 1990s, people were speculating all sorts of dramatic changes to the world that would occur at 2000. Then once 2000 passed without any of those 'end-of-the-world' events occurring, people needed a new future year to fear and so now it looks like 2012 is the leading candidate. I would probably believe theres another year lined up afterwards, this time based on possibly the chinese lunisolar year ending in 2043.

I heard a solar storm is predicted for 2012. The storm will have effects on cell phones, GPS, weather satellites and many other modern technologies.

It's simple.

Quetzcoatl will come down from on high and destroy the world in fiery death, or whatever it's known for.

OR

The world will pretty much go on as normal, something "significant" will happen on 21 Dec 2012 and all the believers will say "see! That's what it was!" ignoring the fact that they were predicting a planetary demise.

I'm expecting the second one.

The the extreme right wingers will try and force the rapture by drinking the kool-aide and we'll have a mess to clean up.

The way I look at it, if we're gonna go we may as well go together.

Quarko saidA lot of things are being told about what is going to happen in 2012. This year is told by the old Mayas, a civilization of Mexico, as the end of an era. They had a calendar, made more than 5000 years ago, and it ends exactly in December 21st, 2012. There are books, websites, movies and documentaries about. Have you ever heard about it? What is your idea of what is going to happen?

Hey guys... FIRST POST for me on this site... woo hoo! Anyways getting to the topic on hand. I would just like to state that I'm a huge skeptic and it takes a lot to get me to change in my ideas. However, many life altering changes have happened to me during the past year that have made me want to look for answers. Such as my sister's death early in the year due to a Cancer, which when it was detected, was in such an advance state not much could be done.

I've never been huge on religion, I just don't get it. I feel that religions were created just to control people, keep them in check if you catch my drift. I have a hard time believing that one is better than the other. Granted, most religions are looking for the same thing... some call it God, some Buddha, others Zeus and so forth. I reiterate, they all have great things to offer, but it is when these ideologies start putting down other religions and claim that if you do not follow a certain religion you will automatically go to hell. That being said, I consider myself spiritual, but non religious.

Which now brings me to my recent discovery of "NEW AGE" material and metaphysics. It all started with Oprah (I know... bring on the gay jokes). She had a guest on, an author by the name of Eckhart Tolle, who wrote a book called "A New Earth". The book does not stress and does not go into anything having to do with religion, which I liked. In short, I picked up the book and upon having finished reading it, I now felt that for the first time things made sense... Okay, but we'll get into THAT topic some other time.

Naturally, I was intrigued and wanted more. A close friend of mine, who is into this as well, mentioned 2012 for the first time to me back in June. He mentioned the whole Mayan prophecies and how their calendar ended on December 12, 2012. At first we both thought "Ok, so is the world going to end on that date??". Not really, it is however the end of one era and the start of another in human evolution, not physically (at least I hope not) but more like a spiritual awakening. According to some books I've read, we are in a transition period, where before we reach 2012, we as a human race will have to endure many changes that will make us reflect and begin to think of ourselves not individually, but as a whole and what in turn will be best for us as a species. In other words, the unity of the human race as a whole. That there would be AWESOME! Not the catastrophes, but the unification of humans as a race, NOT by color, NOT by ethnicity, not by ANY labels we have given each other to try and make us different from one another. At the end of the day, our blood is the same color!

Ok, so now for the skeptic side of me, the side that needs facts. Scientists at NASA have said that within recent years, they have been tracking solar flares and how some of these flares have been going off the scale, ten times greater than previously recorded. In an article online...

"Scientists have recently considered the possibility that the sequence we're now in, as well as being part of the normal 11 year cycle, might also mark the completion of a larger 10,000 or 100,000 year cycle. It is clear that the earth experienced a disastrous event 10,000 years ago literally wiping out civilization; and probably involving a major crustal shift. That is also the approximate date ending the last ice age. Could it be that the "ice age" ended because the polar ice cap land masses were thrown down (or up) to the equator? Could it be that the Mayan calendar, ending in 2012, was drawn to account for this very recurring cycle of solar upheaval and polar shift?

Another shift in the magnetic field of the sun, coupled with solar flares larger than ever recorded to date, might have a huge impact on the magnetic equilibrium of the earth's crust."

So as you can see, it is scientifically proven that these solar flares are greatly impacting Earth's environment.... Global warming anyone?!? So maybe the Mayan's DID have some clue as to what is to happen.

So my question now is... Who is right?!? In any case, CHANGES will happen, how we interpret these changes is totally up to us.


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