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Might be a strange question, but are there other gay catholics out there like myself? Just curious. I feel pretty isolated

I'm going to church tomorrow. I'm trying to get back in the habit. Mmm I totally forgot the rosary

Don't feel isolated. You're not alone. I just come back from church.

Mike

Are you guys still practicing?

Haven't you figured out how to do it YET?

I was born into a Catholic family. I rejected it as I grew older and learned what a historically and politically opportunistic religion it is based more in the spread of religion through war and political alliances than love and compassion.

urbanguy911 saidI was born into a Catholic family. I rejected it as I grew older and learned what a historically and politically opportunistic religion it is based more in the spread of religion through war and political alliances than love and compassion.

With all due respect to you guys that have problems with our faith, there are a few threads where we are told how brainwashed we are, so please don't start it here again.

We get the picture, you have a problem with it, we don't, lets leave it at that.

Mike

jprichva saidAre you guys still practicing?

Haven't you figured out how to do it YET?

We are perfectionists

MikePhil - "With all due respect to you guys that have problems with our faith, there are a few threads where we are told how brainwashed we are, so please don't start it here again. "

I'm sorry, I didn't realize there were response stipulations to this thread.
I did not mention that followers of the Catholic faith were brainwashed. I simply stated my personal experience.

Went to Catholic school till I graduated high school and I would never put my kids thru catholic school.

I stopped going to church. I see it as a little self hating.

I just came back from mass as well. Perhaps because I didn't have to go through Catholic high school or college I can appreciate it much more, although I was brought to church ever since I was young. At first I didn't appreciate the fact that I had to wake up early on Sunday mornings, but as I got older I began to value going more and more.

People should also realize that there are very different types of Catholics and that just because we have a pope does not mean we support everything that the Vatican says or does. Religion shouldn't be used to spread hate or intolerance, even if so many people choose to use it for that purpose.

I know a gay catholic priest in Wichita that is, um,
"active" and practicing.. if you know what I mean.

Confirmed in a progressive parish in college. Don't attend mass regularly because I haven't found that parish that gives me the experience I need, and I'm picky. I like the old-school "smells and bells" rituals, but prefer a more contemporary liturgy.

Best thing I learned as I was confirming is that you CAN disagree with the Church. Many people see Catholicism as very rigid, but if you follow the right steps, you can and may disagree with doctrine.

MikePhil said[quote][cite]urbanguy911 said[/cite]I was born into a Catholic family. I rejected it as I grew older and learned what a historically and politically opportunistic religion it is based more in the spread of religion through war and political alliances than love and compassion.

With all due respect to you guys that have problems with our faith, there are a few threads where we are told how brainwashed we are, so please don't start it here again.

We get the picture, you have a problem with it, we don't, lets leave it at that.

Mike[/quote]

Caslon saidAnybody else notice that a lot of "emotional" things are happening with folks on RJ?

I'm like what the hell!?!?! ....

I wanna say...now, everybody back away from your computer slowly. ....

Now it all makes so much sense! LOL Well dujock, you just unknowingly opened that can of worms again! LOL

Oh and BTW, I'm a Lutheran...and active (ducking now as the barbs start flying!).

du_jock saidMight be a strange question, but are there other gay catholics out there like myself? Just curious. I feel pretty isolated

Check this out, you may find it very useful:
http://www.dignityusa.org/

Its an organization for Gay Catholics. While born & raised in the church, I find myself leaning more and more toward the Episcopal church, primarily because the clergy are not celibate.

During my theology studies I really felt a closeness to the (Catholic) church, but if I ever wanted to take it the next level, I'd have to end my relationship (as the Jesuits who taught me often said, gay priests are fine, because if you're celibate it doesn't really matter where you want to "put it" because you're not going to be putting it anywhere), and I just don't think thats what God is shooting for.

urbanguy911 said
I'm sorry, I didn't realize there were response stipulations to this thread.
I did not mention that followers of the Catholic faith were brainwashed. I simply stated my personal experience.

No there are no response stipulations to any threads, and I do admit, I over reacted a bit, but I started getting flashbacks reading your post

If you read all the other threads on religion, I think you would forgive me for over reacting

Mike

Thanks for the stimulating conversations

I am still searching for a good church here in San Diego. The music is what makes it for me and I miss my parish in Denver.

I agree with some comments. I think many organized religions are problematic. But I also think religion is deeply personal. If it provides guidance and is a positive impact in one's life I don't that as negative, whatever faith or belief that may be.

The way I have negotiated the two is that I love going to mass because its a chance that is set aside for me to relax and be thankful for what I have. That might not work for some people but it does for me. Its as simple as that. I don't agree with a lot of dogma when it comes to organized religion's stance on homosexual relationships obviously , but I think that I would rather meet "them" half way. Those stereotype and perceptions about gays aren't dismantled unless they encounter dissonance from what they think means to be Catholic (i.e. heterosexual, married)

Muunrakur said...Check this out, you may find it very useful:
http://www.dignityusa.org/
Its an organization for Gay Catholics.

Caveat: Dignity is NOT approved by the RC church because Dignity doesn't tow the line about condemning all sex out of str8 marriage. However, Dignity does follow the RC mass, feasts, etc.

I'm on hiatus from church (RC). Find myself questioning a thousand things I always took for granted.

But a lot of my gay friends are still attending mass and all. Despite its problems, catholicism offers believing christians a lot.

(NB MikePhil, I'm straining to respect your wise and prudent advice about keeping it non-judgmental. ha ha!)

I'm not aware of any gay/les organizations or support groups that ARE approved by the Roman Catholic Church. Are there any?

ggeo17 said[quote][cite]
(NB MikePhil, I'm straining to respect your wise and prudent advice about keeping it non-judgmental. ha ha!)

Why is that?

du_jock saidMight be a strange question, but are there other gay catholics out there like myself? Just curious. I feel pretty isolated

Cool, I like to know if there are any Orthodox Christians in RealJock as well...

...church every weekend, faith in God is great! I don´t agree with everything my faith preaches but it is my faith and it is all about a personal relationship with God, so don´t get hang up on the catholic part

HndsmKansan saidI know a gay catholic priest in Wichita that is, um,
"active" and practicing.. if you know what I mean.

I wondering if anyone was going to jump on the easy turn of phrase in this thread.

One is amazed, at how anybody could be a homosexual, and support this vile organization.

The last pope before he died sent out a statement. Informing the world. That any country supporting homosexuality, is mentally deranged.


Sorry but, One does make a point of not bagging religions. But this vile organisation, Mankind's first religious terrorist group.

Ones vessel was a mick, a Catholic (a women Pa was forced at gunpoint to wed). one of Ones first Memories is of this terrorist pulling One out of the bath, and whipping One with power cords. Oh the nuns, were to teach her well, in the art of torture. So Not only was One born a protestant Aristocrat, was is also a survivor of torture, from the hands of that catholic terrorist.

When One asked A priest for help, all it could do was call One a heathen.

One Thank Henry the Eighth, for Oz becoming the wonderful country is Once was. As he kicked the Micks out Of England, and turned it into a Protestant country. Thus Oz was to become a Protestant Country, and not a Catholic One. This Island is full of Catholics, who have come to this land, from their catholic home, for a life their Catholic home does not offer.

One of the main reasons Homosexuals lack equality in Oz. Has a lot to do with Vatican City's interference with Our protestant country. God look at what Vatican City has done to Ireland, and it's not even a part of the British Isles.

How can any self respecting homosexual call themselves a Catholic? But maybe they wear their rainbow vest to church, and get denied mass?

Just my two cents.

Here is an excerpt from an email exchange I had with Fr. Robert Drinan, who passed away a short while ago.

You can learn more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Drinan

I had emailed him about my conflicting feelings regarding my Catholicism and sexuality and this was part of his reply:

"There have always been deficiencies in the management of the church. At some times in the church’s history there have been scandalous things happening at the highest levels.

I think that you should say that I will serve the invisible church, the mystical body, the institution that Christ left so that we can receive the teachings of the gospel and the Eucharist.

The Catholic church is not the bishops or even the Pope. It is the voice of Christ across time and through space.

I do hope that you will have enlightenment and consolation on your pilgrimage to God."

Pattison saidOne is amazed, at how anybody could be a homosexual, and support this vile organization.

The last pope before he died sent out a statement. Informing the world. That any country supporting homosexuality, is mentally deranged.


Sorry buy One does make a point of not bagging religions. But this vile organisation, Mankind first religious terrorist group.

Ones vessel was a mick, a Catholics(a women Pa was forced at gunpoint to wed). one of Ones first Mamore's is of this terrorist pulling One out of the bath, and whipping One with power cords. Oh the nuns, were to teach her well, in the art of torture. So Not only was One born a protestant Aristocrat, was is also a survivor, from the hands of that catholic terrorist.

When One asked A priest for help, all it could do was call one a heathen.

One Thank Henry the Eighth, for Oz becoming the wonderful country is Once was. As he kicked the Micks out Of England, and turned it into a Protestant country. Thus Oz was to become a Protestant Country, and not a Catholic One. This Island is full of Catholics, who have come to this land, from their catholic home, for a life their Catholic home does not offer.

One of the main reasons Homosexuals lack equality in Oz. Has a lot to do with Vatican City's interference with Our protestant country. God look at what Vatican City has done to Ireland, and it's not even a part of the British Isles.

How can any self respecting homosexual call themselves a Catholic? But maybe they wear their rainbow vest to church, and get denied mass?

Just my two cents.

Can someone translate this

The following website/podcast has very little to do with *gay* Catholics, but is Catholic, and it's easier than church! (lol)

http://sqpn.com/category/talkshows/daily-breakfast-with-fr-roderick/

The priest is Fr. Roderick from the Netherlands (perfect English), and he talks about all things Catholic, and throws in a lot of references to "Star Wars", "Lost", and "The Simpsons". As he says, "From the sacraments to the Simpsons, from technology to theology, this show unites podcasts and pilgramages, popes and pokemons, smoothies and movies, priests and pagans, and even Zunes and iPods." It's a good listen while I'm doing my long walk with the dog.

Here's the Wikipedia article about Fr. Roderick:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Roderick_Vonhögen[/url]

Thanks for all the feedback

du_jock saidMight be a strange question, but are there other gay catholics out there like myself? Just curious. I feel pretty isolated

I'm not, but I've got a cousin and a few friends who are. I grew up in a dominately catholic family; though my parents were charismatic christians, and former catholics themselves. Religions wasn't the thing for me at all when I was a kid-preteen, and for a time I was completely atheistic.

I think there are more gay catholics out there than you can imagine. It's my belief that the issue of homosexuality and the somewhat commonplace practice of atheism in the gay community makes it a bit difficult for some closet catholics to just come out and admit to their prefered religious beliefs.

I've got nothing against practicing or nonpracticing catholics. I don't even hate the pope; though I do disagree with the companies profiting from his image and visit to the states. Makes me want to look up Jesus' visit to the marketplace in the temple in Jeruselem.

My partner goes to mass several times a year, and observes lent. When we are in NYC he wants to go to St. Patrick's Cathedral on Sunday for mass.

The Star Wars Show is coming to New York! I'm going to don some cinammon buns over my ears and pay hommage to the emperor_pope.

He is giving mass on April 20th in Yankee Stadium. Does anybody else know what April 20th is known for on RJ? The irony of it all!

High church Episcopalian. Is that close enough?

Wy behave Yes I know who was born on April 20 funny it is also the code word for Marijuana for the Police 4-20 For the room Hitler was born on 20 April

jprichva saidAre you guys still practicing?

Haven't you figured out how to do it YET?

ROFL

SHHHH!

*me drags jprichva out of the church*

EDIT:

*comes back for McGay*

Leave them alone. LOL

I suppose there's irony to be found in that Yankee Stadium's going to be demolished this year (i think it's this year).

I was raised catholic and went to a catholic university which required 3 semesters of theology to graduate. I go to mass pretty much every sunday and recently have been going to some catechism classes for adults. My motivation for going to the class is similar to what would motivate me to learn more about the kurran, curiosity and a desire to have a deeper understanding of a variety of religeous doctrine.

From time to time I encounter a "recovering Catholic" and feel no particular need to defend my choice to attend mass and participate in a community of basically well intended folks. When pressed on the matter I simply state my belief that virtually all organized religion have their deficiencies and I remain a practicing catholic because god gave me the intellegence to ignore up to 40% (depending on the parrish) of what I hear from the pulpit. Why on earth would I want to change to a denomination where I'd have to refigure which bits to ignore and which bits have been least tainted by politics, greed, ambition, oppression or any other number of human character defects which have influenced the evolution of christianity since the Council of Nicea some time in the 4th century.

In the end I'm drawn to mass simply because it's a strangely rewarding experience and is just one many endeavors which contributes to my spiritual growth.

In the interest of balance I would like to point out that the Catholic Church, despite a history of varied political, social and personal abuses, does in fact work ardently for social and economic justice in many parts of the world today. As an individual my characher could not withstand being defined by my worst possible moments. Recognizing this relieves me of the temptation to judge even flawed institutions like the Catholic Church.

McGay saidThe Star Wars Show is coming to New York! I'm going to don some cinammon buns over my ears and pay hommage to the emperor_pope.

I love you McGay

That's it, become one with your anger, together we can rule the universe.

joeindallas saidWy behave Yes I know who was born on April 20 funny it is also the code word for Marijuana for the Police 4-20 For the room Hitler was born on 20 April

I am being very naughty, I should be disciplined. I could not help it. A German born pope with a controversial past giving a huge mass in one of the world's most famous sports venues on the 119th anniversary of Adolf Hitler's birthday. Is life surreal at times or what?

MikePhil said[quote][cite]ggeo17 said[/cite][quote][cite]
(NB MikePhil, I'm straining to respect your wise and prudent advice about keeping it non-judgmental. ha ha!)

Why is that?[/quote]

As a former very-devoted catholic who has seen way too much, I am DEEPLY angry at the catholic church. When I share with my friends in a similar or close situation, I always say that I am feeling more and more like Martin Luther.

I want to respect peoples' personal religious convictions, and my strain is not to offend anyone with my anger.

Muunrakur saidI'm not aware of any gay/les organizations or support groups that ARE approved by the Roman Catholic Church. Are there any?

There is a group called Courage whose members agree to abide by the church's mandate that gays HAVE to be celibate, and agree that any sex outside of straight marriage is a grave evil (= mortal sin = eternal damnation if the person dies unrepentent).

Some former members of Courage are now in happy gay relationships -- I guess the church does some things right.

If they're in gay relationships, they are not obeying the mandate (hence you identifying them as 'former' members of COURAGE)... how is the church doing right in that instance? Am I misunderstanding?

I was born raised and went to a Catholic school. I used to go every sunday and then some. Then in the last 10 years something happened. I started to feeling like I was wasting my time. Because of all the hate towards gay men. So I started looking around for something that touched me. I just found it last year. I went to a baptist church in FL. It move me to tears and I went down front and professed my love and belief in Jesus Christ.
For the first time it clicked. If you trust in Jesus and understand he gave up his life, and if you ask hin he will forgive you of all your sins. Then you will get into heaven.
It still raised a few questions in my head. But in my heart it was something I always knew to be true.
When I came out to my mom, she said so only worried about me getting into heaven. I asked her in your version of heaven when my time comes do I come where you are? She said yes, then how can God not allow me just for who I love when you loved and believed in him got in. But he tells you NO your son will not get in.
I don't think God is that way. If gay was wrong then no one creature on this earth would have couples that were just two men or two woman.
I just I got off track here a little, I just hoped something I said will help you in your search for finding what leads you to heaven...

Not to politicize this -- okay, to politicize it-- but whenever a woman meets the pope, she's supposed to wear black. That's just the way it is. White shoes between Easter and Labor Day, and all black when you meet the successor to St. Peter. Well just look here.

Muunrakur saidIf they're in gay relationships, they are not obeying the mandate (hence you identifying them as 'former' members of COURAGE)... how is the church doing right in that instance? Am I misunderstanding?

I meant that they met each other in the group, and after trying to follow the church's requirements to remain celibate and discovering how inhumane those requirements are, they departed from the group and became a couple.

The church inadvertantly facilitated their meeting each other, which was not the intention of the church. Just a happy side effect, as far as the couple was concerned.

Wysiwyg60 said[quote][cite]joeindallas said[/cite]Wy behave Yes I know who was born on April 20 funny it is also the code word for Marijuana for the Police 4-20 For the room Hitler was born on 20 April

I am being very naughty, I should be disciplined. I could not help it. A German born pope with a controversial past giving a huge mass in one of the world's most famous sports venues on the 119th anniversary of Adolf Hitler's birthday. Is life surreal at times or what?[/quote]

Nah.

It's just the end of the world... again. *sigh*

I am a gay man who was raised as a Roman Catholic but I am no longer a practicing Catholic. I don't think I would feel comfortable returning to a church organization whose leader the pope is so ignorant and homophobic. People I know nickname him pope nazi. I am still undecided if I will ever return to the Roman Catholic Church.

Found this new author referenced in The New York Blade, Scott Pomfret, Since My Last Confession: A Gay Catholic Memoir due to be published June 2008. This book looks like it could be a lot of fun. From the Amazon website:

Book Description
Scott Pomfret serves as a lector at St. Anthony Shrine in Boston. He also writes gay porn. His boyfriend is a flaming atheist, and his boyfriend's Protestant grandmother counts Catholicism a sin worse than sodomy. From Pentecost to Pride, from the books of the Bible to the articles of The Advocate, Pomfret's wry, hysterically funny memoir maps with matchless humor the full spectrum of the gay Catholic experience...

Anyone interested in going to mass together

If you are looking for the organization approved by the RCC for people with same sex attractions, then you should click to www.couragerc.org . I have several friends that are members of the organization and live chaste lives. (Chastity in the Catholic sense means obeying the sexual natural laws for your state in live -- single or married.) One actually just proposed to a woman that he has been dating for three years after being in Courage for six. I have a lot of respect for Courage.

Dignity on the other hand, claims to be Catholic but goes directly against the teachings of the Church. They might as well be Protestant. They have been condemned by multiple bishops.

Cardinal Arinze recently described the Church's attitude towards other religions as positive, because everything that is at all true and good has a foundation in God. However, the problem with the common statement that all the churches are a way to heaven is best summed in the words of Cardinal Arinze: "It is an impossibility of all religions being the same or being equally valid. As someone said, 'your religion is true for you, mine is true for me. All religions are equal. All of them are equally valid and all of them are equally defective.' Can you just imagine a teacher in mathematics saying that the answer you got here is true for you, the answer that student got is true for them?"

Also... regarding doctrine and the teachings of the Church. The faithful are obligated to give "obsequium religiosum" (sp?) to the Revelation given by God through Christ which is present singularly and fully in two forms: Tradition and Scripture. Basically, the faithful are obligated to offer their full will and intellect to the divine truths given in revelation and interpreted by the sole authority on revelation -- the Magisterium. It does not have the authority of S or T, but it is given a duty by God to guard, promote, and explicate the Revelation of God. Second to Divine Truths are Ecclesial Truths, or truths that one must hold with full assent of the will because they are implied by the Divine Truths (i.e. teachings on abortion, contraception, etc). Theologians debate whether ecclesial truths require the full assent of intellect, but are unanimous that they require assent of the will.

In more simple terms: Catholics must give assent of will (action) and intellect (belief/agreement) to all matters of Faith and Morals -- aka Doctrines and Dogmas. However, matters of Discipline (i.e. receiving by the hand or the tongue), should be given assent of the will to the teaching of your local Ordinary (bishop).

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I became Catholic several years ago after three years of searching across all sorts of faith from Christianity, to Wicca, to Buddhism, to Islam. Though I have my periods of agnosticism or otherwise, I always return to the Eucharist. No other faith has the historicity of unchanging doctrine and an authority to preserve the faith from the "winds of opinion". If you are going to take on a faith that speaks of something eternal... they better not be changing their eternal truths because they got pissed off at someone. Thus, why protestantism annoys me. Yes, there were abuses... there will be weeds among the wheat... you don't change doctrines and start a new faith because of it.

I am a little offended by that video

Sometimes the zealous guardians of truth forget that new knowledge and insights are brought forth by God. Otherwise, my parish would not have been able to take out an interest-bearing loan from our diocese. Nobody in the Church should think they have a monopoly on truth. The Holy Spirit is the teacher and protects us from error. If He were not, we'd be believing that Jesus was created, not begotten of the Father (see Cardinal John Henry Newman's treatise on On Consulting the Faithful in Matters of Doctrine). It was zealous religious leaders that had Jesus put to death, and it was God who put an end to scapegoating and labeling "us" vs. "them." In spite of our human failings, we are loved more deeply than we can know.

Anyway, I am a practicing gay Catholic. Couldn't look at the world through any other eyes. The good Lord has walked with me since I can remember, and He used and continues to use the Catholic church to teach me about himself. The law of love is the law that matters, and that means above all respect for ourselves and others as God's creation, loved forever and called by name.

And I am not so sure I agree with the Courage philosophy. So its ok for heterosexual persons to love and have sex, but because I am gay I have to remain chase. Maybe I am missing something but sounds a bit hypocritical?

redheaded_dude saidNot to politicize this -- okay, to politicize it-- but whenever a woman meets the pope, she's supposed to wear black. That's just the way it is. White shoes between Easter and Labor Day, and all black when you meet the successor to St. Peter. Well just look here.

But I see Hillary wearing purple and Bill wearing black...what are you suggesting?

I believe Christ died for my sins too but I hope I never sound as brain washed as that guy ^.

Must be nice though. Having no responsibility to interpret the Bible for ones own self must be a blast.

Nah, du jock. You can't really take the churches word on anything these days ( if ever).

It's best to go to the source...preferably a surprisingly little tampered with Kings James edition of the Bible for your answers.

Or you can continue to live in a certain way because someone with a few Bible quotes said so.




In short, I don't practice Catholicism but that doesn't mean I don't have faith. With God, it's supposed to be "to each his own" anyway.

Agreed-

I am not claiming Catholicism is any better then any other faith. It works for me and I am comfortable with it.

Sorry if I came off a little "harsh" sounding. I was stating what the church taught in light of religious pluralism and relativity when it comes to church doctrines.

I know all this stuff because i've done the research on it before and during my conversion...

Without launching into a huge discussion on Theology of the Body... basically the reason why homosexuality is not okay boils down, in part, to the nature of sex: 1-the unitive act, and 2- the procreative act.

To take one of these out of the equation is to disorder the full reality of sex and thus deprive it of its true meaning. It's like trying to drive a car without an engine. It still moves, but it defeats the purpose of having a car.

That's the basics of the argument anyways... there's much more... over 1000 pages about the nature of the human person and the body and sex.

By the way... you guys might like this video.
http://www.catholicscomehome.org/epic/epic120.phtml

This is a pretty interesting take in favor of homosexuality:



When Christ was gay (Not that I even remotely believe that just EXISTING as a sga man is a sin in itself.)


http://elroy.net/ehr/gay.html

Theology of the Body is relatively new and not really part of the ancient tradition of the church. There is no conflict between faith and reason, but there is conflict when Church authority obstinately denies truth. Some people are homosexual, or bisexual. Some of us believe we were created that way. Some also believe that maybe God has a purpose for us in the grand scheme of things. Some of also believe that this is not an issue that is central to the faith. So we continue to practice the faith in good conscience, praying every day that those who won't deal with us honestly will begin to do so.

Well said

Hi, du jock!

I just came across this thread.

I am blessed to be a member of Most Holy Redeemer Parish in San Francisco, probably the gayest Roman Catholic parish in the universe. I am a lector and acolyte there.

Our congregation is about 85 percent gay and lesbian and we fill the church every Sunday at 10 a.m. with about 300 gays, lesbians, transgenders, bisexuals, seniors and straight folk who love our inclusive community. We are blessed with two wonderful priests who support us and defend us.

To those who wonder how we can be gay and Catholic at the same time, we say: WE are the church, not the Vatican, not the Pope!

We know the difference between what we must believe as Catholics and what the church hierarchy says we should believe. So we, in good conscience, disagree with the church's teachings on homosexuality, abortion, etc. and instead pay attention to what Jesus taught, namely to love one another.

The Vatican is quite aware of our parish because Cardinal Levada used to be archbishop of San Francisco and visited us many times. Even someone as theologically conservative as him recognized that we are a community of faith so he left us alone.

To learn more, check out our parish Web site at www.mhr.org.

I know a former parishioner who lives in San Diego now so perhaps he can recommend a good parish for you. Good luck and keep the faith!

SFTraveler saidTo learn more, check out our parish Web site at www.mhr.org.

Thanks, SFTraveler. Good website. I'm in Austin, TX, but now that we have JetBlue flying direct to SF, I'll plan on a visit one of these (Sun)days.

I am very lucky to have a gay friendly parish just a five minute drive from where I live. The 5 PM mass tonight has a number of single men and couples that seem to fit in well with the straights. There are a few guys there that catch my eye, and I would not hesitate to ask out or...well....I am also part of a group of gay Catholics and ex Catholics who get together every so often for a potluck/carry in supper.

I'm Proud Catholic, go to church every Sunday. God don't judge any person. He is a loving God, all men are created equal.

Really enjoy this "New Catholic Media":



The Daily Breakfast is available on iTunes, and at www.sqpn.com, if you're interested. Just search for "Father Roderick".