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If you are not an only child, are you the oldest, youngest or a middle child in the birth order rank of your siblings?

I am the oldest of four. My sister (the only and thus oldest female child) is also gay. My uncle was the youngest. Two friends of mine who are gay were the youngest in their families.

I am not attempting to postulate or prove any theories. Merely curious.

I am the youngest of my mother's first marriage, 3 older siblings. I do have a younger sister from my mother's second marriage, but she is 11 years younger than me.

I'm the youngest, I have an older brother.

My gay uncle on my mothers side is the oldest of 12 children.

I am the youngest. I have two older sisters (both straight).

Middle of 3 boys. Isn't something about the order that influences the production of a gay child. I think it is more likely after a mother has one child.

I had a gay great uncle.

Caslon saidMiddle of 3 boys. Isn't something about the order that influences the production of a gay child. I think it is more likely after a mother has one child.

I have often noted that I seem a rare gay oldest child. Which is part of why I posed the question. My sister and I were discussing it earlier.

I have an older brother and a younger sister.

This seems sort of typical, from what I gather.

The fraternal birth order effect is the strongest known predictor of sexual orientation; according to various studies, each older brother increases a man's chances of developing a homosexual sexual orientation by from 28% to 48%.[1][2][3][4] Even so, the fraternal birth order effect only accounts for a maximum of one seventh of the prevalence of homosexuality in men.[5] There seems to be no effect on sexual orientation in women, and no effect related to the number of older sisters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_sexual_orientation

So we oldest child gays can claim biochemical freakdom!

"It is hypothesized that the fraternal birth order effect may be caused by increasing levels of antibodies produced by the mother to the histocompatibility Y-antigen with each son."

Evidently, you really irritated your mother's immune system and got her antibody level right up there the first time.

Ok, ok...she could have just been sensitive and you werent abnormally irritating.

I am the youngest of three. (And the cutest )

I am the youngest of 5 boys and the only gay one of us 5. The rest are married with kids.

runinthecity ---- your not alone any longer ha !!! I am the oldest of 3 sons, but like you I haven't met other gay guys who are the oldest amongst several siblings. I know of several gays who are only children though. INTERESTING !!!! (hadn't really thought about it before)

Caslon said

Evidently, you really irritated your mother's immune system and got her antibody level right up there the first time.

Hmm, perhaps if she knew this, she could stop blaming herself and blame me! Wouldn't that be fun! Of course, then they'd prove it was genetic and she could blame her mother, which would in fact bring existential perfection to her world.

realifedad, the youngest ones are outnumbering us so far. Interesting.

I am the youngest of 3. I have 2 older sister that are 7 and 10 years older than me.

I am the baby

JUSTJK: we can be babies together!

wrkoutbud30 saidI am the youngest of 3. I have 2 older sister that are 7 and 10 years older than me.

Older sisters dont count. Only older brothers.

Middle child here...

Caslon said[quote][cite]wrkoutbud30 said[/cite]I am the youngest of 3. I have 2 older sister that are 7 and 10 years older than me.

Older sisters dont count. Only older brothers.[/quote]

They may not count in the data you cited from Wikipedia, but for the purposes of this thread, I'm still curious of members' overall sibling order. All these youngests....

RunintheCity said[quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]
I have often noted that I seem a rare gay oldest child. Which is part of why I posed the question. My sister and I were discussing it earlier.

Guess I am the exception here. Oldest of 5

I am the Oldest of 3 kids; my sister being the middle and I have a younger brother. My uncle on my dad's side is gay.

Finally. A couple more oldest siblings!

I'm the baby... gotta love me!

Seriously... I have an older brother (10 yrs older) and sister (8 yrs older) by my dad's first marriage (both gay), an older straight sister (5 yrs older), and then... ME!

I'm the youngest of five, and my older brother(second to youngest) is also gay. I have two gay cousin, one the oldest and the other the youngest of four. And I've heard rumour of possibly a long closeted gay uncle? a couple lesbian cousins? and a distant gay cousin?

I am the oldest of three.

B787

2nd oldest of 8, Gay aunt and uncle, both on mother's side and gay brother (4th of 8 )...The Mo's certainly run in my family!

RunintheCity said[quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite][quote][cite]wrkoutbud30 said[/cite]I am the youngest of 3. I have 2 older sister that are 7 and 10 years older than me.

Older sisters dont count. Only older brothers.[/quote]

They may not count in the data you cited from Wikipedia, but for the purposes of this thread, I'm still curious of members' overall sibling order. All these youngests....[/quote]

Ok, I have gotten my answer to whether you were irritating or your mother was sensitive ....

Younger of two.... and thank goodness he's married and has kids...

Caslon said[quote][cite]RunintheCity said[/cite][quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite][quote][cite]wrkoutbud30 said[/cite]I am the youngest of 3. I have 2 older sister that are 7 and 10 years older than me.

Older sisters dont count. Only older brothers.[/quote]

They may not count in the data you cited from Wikipedia, but for the purposes of this thread, I'm still curious of members' overall sibling order. All these youngests....[/quote]

Ok, I have gotten my answer to whether you were irritating or your mother was sensitive .... [/quote]



What's awful is that both are true!

I am the oldest of 2 (younger sister)

I'm the oldest of three; my two brothers are tediously, relentlessly, incontrovertibly and irredeemably heterosexual.

I am the youngest... My sister is the oldest and my brother is the middle...

stuck in the middle one older and one younger sister

youngest with an older sister

youngest--have an older brother and sister

Oldest and I have 1 brother who is in the picture with me at the Bengals game

Youngest, with two older sisters.

I'm the younger twin, I have an "older" sister by 10 minutes. No other siblings.

Im the only child of my mothers first marrage. 1 younger brother from her second marrage. Does it count im the oldest of 13 grandchildren? 1 gay uncle, and 1 gay cousin too.

I'm the oldest, and I have two sisters.

youngest

oldest...i have one younger brother who is 16, but hes 6'2, has a hot boyd, and looks like he's 21

Youngest of 3...
older bro and sis

<-- Middle child !

1 older sis, 1 older bro, and 2 younger bros.

Youngest of 4!

2nd of 6. I have 5 sisters.

Younger of the two; in terms of socialization though, my brother has cerebral palsy and epilepsi (and semi-overprotective parents), so it felt like the birth order was reversed in some areas.

youngest of 6. 4 brothers and one sister.

Eldest male, 4th child.

I have 3 older sisters with a 9 year gap between me and the youngest of them.

I have a younger brother a year younger than me and another sister 7 years younger than me.

I am the first born son, which in Hispanic culture is about as good as it gets. My parents didnt plan on having any more children, but 11 years later, my sister was conceived.

As the first-born son in Latin culture, I was privileged...I got whatever I wanted, and my parents indulged me and made sure I had the best education, materials, etc. money could buy. (Of course, it was a doubel-edged sword...my parents expected nothing less than perfection from me, and I attempted to deliver as best I could. I'm not trying to brag, but I was accepted at Harvard, Yale, West Point, Annapolis (Naval Academy), and other colleges. I've told my parents that i felt undue pressure to go to an Ivy League school, which is one reasons I accepted West Point over civilian schools.

I'm the oldest... one younger bro.

And yea in my psych class we learned that birth order does seem to have a huge impact as a predictor of sexual orientation. Although I'd be an exception I suppose...

Oldest of three...

I have two younger brothers

Middle of 3.

7th of 7. three brothers and 3 sisters.

I'm the 3rd of 6.

I have two older half-sisters
I'm the eldest triplet (we're 23 sec apart)
and I have a younger sister.

None of us were planned. We were all accidents, especially my little sis (she shouldn't have been born since my mom "thought" she had her tubes tied after my brothers and I were born).

Older brother and twin brother, but I'm 11 minutes older. Does that make me a middle?

I'm tied -- lol. I have an older sister and I have a twin. So we are both middle and youngest. Technically speaking I am the older twin, so I would be the middle child, but only by 2 minutes!

I'm number 4 out of 5 kids in my family..2 older sisters, one older brother and one younger sister.

My brother was also gay

I also have three half brothers from my dads first marriage

I'm the youngest of four. But I grew up as an only child b/c my other siblings are at least 20 yrs older than me.

However, they all look like they are in their early 30's...we age really well.

Ha...I look like I am 18 (have never had to put a razor to my face...and I'm 25 going on 26)

Clearly the younger order children outnumber those of us who were first born by a hefty margin. Fascinating!

Youngest of four, two older sisters and one older brother. The mother's release of hormones that "masculinizes" the brain in utero is one of the factors scientists theorize impacts on sexual orientation. Age and stress both seem to impact on this process. For example, German women who were exposed to heavy Allied bombing in WWII seemed to have given birth to a higher number of gay males than otherwise would have been expected.

Here are the four of us on Christmas Day 1966. I am the little squirt on the right.

i'm an only, so i don't count. but my partner is the oldest and has a younger brother.

oh, and my mother is gay

I am the middle of 5, two younger sisters, one older brother and sister.....he's gay too...and so is my aunt, and three cousins....the gay force is strong in my family...lol....

I am the younger of 2, but my older brother was gay, too.

Second last. Nobody else is gay beside me.

jprichva> I have an older brother and a younger sister.

Me too. In the middle in more ways than one.

My partner Matt is the oldest (1 younger sister).

I'm the eldest of four - all one year apart - three boys, one girl. I'm the gayest one!

Oldest of 4 boys, 20(21 on April 1st), 16, 5, and 3 (4 on april 9th), my 16 year old brother is totally hetero I think, but there is still plenty of time for the younger ones. lol

I'm the oldest of 3 boys, all of us 2 years apart (85, 87, 89) and born within a month of each other. I think my parents must've been overly meticulous about timing.

Oldest of two - younger brother is 2 years younger

Middle child. Two older brothers, an older sister and a younger brother. Weirdly, my man has the exact same position in his family, but with an extra younger sister.

Youngest... 5 Sisters... Oldest sister is gay.

I'm the older one between my sister and I.

I'm the fourth of five kids. It went boy, boy, girl, me, girl. My brothers have a different father, if that makes any difference.

Oldest of 3; 1 sister , 1 brother, both str8.....

I'm 4th of 5 kids...so kinda middle...which is why I hate it when you guys fight.

caesarea4 saidjprichva> I have an older brother and a younger sister.

And I was born in Ann Arbor.

/cue Twilight Zone theme music

I'm the oldest (and only) guy, with two younger sisters, who are a huge pain in the ass at times! Lol!

jprichva said[quote][cite]caesarea4 said[/cite]jprichva> I have an older brother and a younger sister.

And I was born in Ann Arbor.

/cue Twilight Zone theme music[/quote]

Shouldn't it be X-files music nowadays???

I'm the oldest here within my family of 2 kids (me n my younger brother who looks more like a jock than I do). Although I think he may be gay but not sure on that. He is a big homophobic person. So that could be a big sign. Never know though.

oldest of two. sister is 5 years younger

Oldest, with a younger brother.

I find stuff like this interesting as well. In my case it gets very interesting. I am the youngest of two boys. My older brother is also gay. We have a male cousin who is the youngest of two boys and he's gay as well. I have two female cousins who are lesbians. One is the youngest of two females while the other is the middle child and only girl . In other words there is a whole lotta gay going on in my family hahaha. Funny thing is I suspect a few others who are married as well. Interesting twist is that all the gay comes from my mothers side that I'm aware of.

My family is very religious. Pretty close to almost cult like status. They basically fart bible versus or thank God for when they do pass gas because obviously they would have blown up had it not been for the good lord allowing the release :-) I've often wondered if they are running towards christianity out of some self imposed shame.

One more very interesting twist in my life. I was born in a very small town on April 26th. In that nursery I was the only male baby with 6 females. Ironically, 14 yrs later one of those female babies born on the same day but 2 hours earlier than me ended up attending the same private H.S. as me. We struck up a fast friendship via playing sports. This woman throws a baseball harder than most men I know. Yep, she's a dyke.

It's a kick sharring the same birthday as one of your closest friends. Not to mention even more crazy that we were born in the same hospital on that same day and both born gay. We're pretty convinced April 26th is the true birthday of gay pride hahaha!

Like I said, interesting stuff.

Well, I paved the way for the rest of my siblings...I am the oldest of 5....The rest (1 sister & 3 brothers) are all living heterosexual lifestyles...I did have the opinion that atleast 1 of my brothers seem to share the same sexual desires and tendencies as I do...He's already married with child...

from oldest to youngest

Sister
Brother
Me
Brother

My younger brother is dead now, so I am the youngest again regretfully.

Oh, I am the only gay one.

I'm the oldest of two, one younger sister, who is quite straight.

My family is politically correct. My brother (the oldest) is straight, my sister (the middle) is bisexual, I'm the youngest and gay. So we cover the entire spectrum.

I am the oldest, and I have 2 sister and 2 brothers.
I've always said that I'm the cutest.... but my youngest brother is giving me a run for my ^{self proclaimed}title

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im the youngest however but im a fraternal twin so, not by long.
i got 2 sisters and one twin brother and no known relatives being gay.

Oldest of three, one brother ,one sis, both are straight.

Fascinated that this is a theory, never heard of it before...hmm

RunintheCity saidFinally. A couple more oldest siblings!

add me to the list of OLDEST. i have a younger sister and brother.

im the youngest of three brothers

youngest of 5 boys, fits the pattern and when the article ran in the SF Chronical in the 80s my wife pointed it out to me...now in 2000 I finally came out....I'm SLOW! LOL

All American Family here:

One straight woman
One straight man
One lesbian woman
One gay man. That is I, and of course, I am the most fabulous. I was the third out of four.

I am the oldest. I have two younger sisters.

Wow. The number of oldest siblings has passed middle siblings and is quickly catching up to the youngests. Very interesting. Soon I will make a post with tallies of entrants from each category. Just out of curiosity and common links. I love this stuff!

jprichva said[quote][cite]caesarea4 said[/cite]jprichva> I have an older brother and a younger sister.

And I was born in Ann Arbor.
[/quote]

Well, that puts you in the same boat as my sister. I was born before we came to A^2.

Now what would be really freaky is if you left town the day she was born....

Middle of three boys and the only homo

I'm the oldest of 5, being that i come from a CATHOLIC HISPANIC family,. Two Brothers and Two Sisters, and it seems that im the only homosexual.

I'm the second oldest of 4. All 3 of my brothers are happily straight, as far as I know.

Youngest of 4 (1 sister, 2 brothers)...and the only gay one

my husband is the youngest of 4 boys, his next oldest brother is also gay

I'm the oldest of 4 boys and as far as I know, the only gay one in the the entire extended family as well!

Oldest of 3

Unless my parents are keeping secrets, its just my baby sister and me. We both like boys, apparently.

Oldest of 3 boys. 1st gay boy in my family. Have 2 lesbian great aunts, 1 lesbian 2nd cousin, and a lesbian for a mom.

Coming out? Never had to.

Oldest of two boys

I'm #4 of 6. One older brother, 2 older sisters and 2 younger sisters

Oldest of two boys, oldest of all the grandchildren (11). Just plain oldest.

No other gays in the family tree that I'm aware of...although my sister-in-law's cousin is incredibly gay in a Catholic family that somehow has no idea. It was kinda fun to be in a Catholic wedding where half the groomsmen were gay.

Oldest of 3 boys. 1st gay boy in my family. Have 2 lesbian great aunts, 1 lesbian 2nd cousin, and a lesbian for a mom.

Coming out? Never had to.

Atlazeia saidI am the youngest of three. (And the cutest )

damn uglyass family



j/k



Youngest of 2.

Oldest of two brothers and two sisters.

First brother happens to be two years younger yet is taller, looks and acts as if he's older, more macho, and is already engaged to marry.

I'm the youngest of three children, on my father's side anyway. I have two older half-brothers.

I'm the oldest of 3 kids - a brother who is the middle child and my sister who is the youngest. I've noticed a correlation with twins and being gay - if one is gay there is a high probability that the other twin is gay as well. I know a couple sets of gay twins...

Middle child out of three sons.

Youngest of five. Two older brothers, two older sisters. I probably was an accident because there's a wide age gap between me and the older four.

swpdxguy saidI'm the oldest of 3 kids - a brother who is the middle child and my sister who is the youngest. I've noticed a correlation with twins and being gay - if one is gay there is a high probability that the other twin is gay as well. I know a couple sets of gay twins...

It's true. A 1991 study showed that if one were gay, an identical twin was also gay 52% of the time. Fraternal dropped to 22% and an adopted brother "only" in 11% of cases.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=1845227&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Bailey JM & Pillard RC, Department of Psychology, Northwestern UniversityHomosexual male probands with monozygotic cotwins, dizygotic cotwins, or adoptive brothers were recruited using homophile publications. Sexual orientation of relatives was assessed either by asking relatives directly, or when this was impossible, asking the probands. Of the relatives whose sexual orientation could be rated, 52% (29/56) of monozygotic cotwins, 22% (12/54) of dizygotic cotwins, and 11% (6/57) of adoptive brothers were homosexual. Heritabilities were substantial under a wide range of assumptions about the population base rate of homosexuality and ascertainment bias. However, the rate of homosexuality among nontwin biological siblings, as reported by probands, 9.2% (13/142), was significantly lower than would be predicted by a simple genetic hypothesis and other published reports. A proband's self-reported history of childhood gender non-conformity did not predict homosexuality in relatives in any of the three subsamples. Thus, childhood gender nonconformity does not appear to be an indicator of genetic loading for homosexuality. Cotwins from concordant monozygotic pairs were very similar for childhood gender nonconformity.

youngest -- with 5 sisters

and NO... it's NOT their fault I'm gay!

LOL

Middle child. older brother, younger sister.

caesarea4 said
Well, that puts you in the same boat as my sister. I was born before we came to A^2.

Now what would be really freaky is if you left town the day she was born....

I doubt it. I left there in 1978. And the last time I was back for a reunion of the Daily was 1990.

Well runintheCity !!!! I counted 34 oldest of siblings out of 120 responses, there's a lot of us oldest of boys only family. This is really interesting, I didn't count for sure but the balance seems pretty evenly split between middle children and youngest. What do you make of this?

Complexity saidMy family is politically correct. My brother (the oldest) is straight, my sister (the middle) is bisexual, I'm the youngest and gay. So we cover the entire spectrum.

As they say, 3rd time's the charm!!

realifedad said What do you make of this?

I make nothing of it as yet.
I'm as scientific as salt over your shoulder!
I'd also imagine we need more data. But I find it fascinating nonetheless.

i have an older sister.
which makes me the oldest male.
I have three younger brothers. i know one of them is bi, but the youngest two i have no idea. Shrug. They will tell me eventually I guess. I also have a younger sister.

does this study factor in unsuccessful pregnancies?
My mom was pregnant two other times before me, but both failed...

Couple of second hand addtions:

The guy I met for coffee tonight is the youngest of his 3 siblings. And one of his best friends is also the gay youngest of 3 siblings.

So 2 more in the youngests column.

caesarea4 said[quote][cite]Complexity said[/cite]My family is politically correct. My brother (the oldest) is straight, my sister (the middle) is bisexual, I'm the youngest and gay. So we cover the entire spectrum.

As they say, 3rd time's the charm!![/quote]
It is, C

I'm the youngest. I'm 6 years younger than my sister and a year and a haft younger than my brother. I'm the only one in my entire family that's not straight. Does me being bi help the situation with my family any better? lol

youngest, 7 years younger than my straight brother and 5 years younger than my straight sister

2nd of 6. All my siblings, like my parents, are asexual. I don't know how they're having kids, but I just can't imagine any of them having sex. Blech!

I've counted all the people who declared themselves and I've counted the men mentioned - such as the guy I met for coffee and a couple of posters' partners.

The tally so far:

Oldest - 42
Youngest - 40
Middle - 16
Other birth order placement - 11

So....

Anyone else?

ok...
i'm an identical triplet, youngest of us three. plus two other older brothers. but only younger by like 30 secs.

lol are you still counting time differences if its under a minute?

I'm all three... I'm my parent's only kid.
They smashed the mold after me, eh?

really complicated, I'm the youngest of my mothers children and the oldest of my fathers children, but I'm the only child from their marriage! lol